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It’s a common myth I see touted in the Bitcoin community that going down the bitcoin rabbit hole will make you less of a progressive.

For me that’s not true at all. It did, however, raise my awareness and skepticism of centralized authorities like the federal government, the Fed, etc in terms of handling our money and given too much control to breach our privacy in any instance. I think it is true that more often than not progressives don’t push back on centralized government authority and interference enough, and look to often to the federal government for support of the community and social values we care about.

Basically I went from not questioning centralizing enough to fighting for decentralization in as many instance as make sense — this is progressive in the sense of greater individual/community control, more democratic, more with everyone playing by the same rules.

Do you want a world ruled by centralized authorities in every instance, or a world where rules without rulers and decentralized protocols usher in a new era or freedom, liberty, and harmony? This is the message I’m hoping to spread to more progressives. And in terms of educating on money, federal governments, privacy, and decentralization I think nostr:npub1a2cww4kn9wqte4ry70vyfwqyqvpswksna27rtxd8vty6c74era8sdcw83a , nostr:npub17u5dneh8qjp43ecfxr6u5e9sjamsmxyuekrg2nlxrrk6nj9rsyrqywt4tp & nostr:npub1sn0wdenkukak0d9dfczzeacvhkrgz92ak56egt7vdgzn8pv2wfqqhrjdv9 are some of the best to speak to progressives on these topics without getting bogged down in ideological warfare

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I agree woth you, as a former cookie cutter liberal pre-bitcoin. In fact, I typically agree with your takes 100% except for the use of the word progressive itself. Whether we like it or not, to be a progressive ( speaking from my experiencece in the US ) is really, really hard to unwind from State-Centric policy. I live in the PNW, all of my friends are very, very progressive. They simply do not see the disenfranchising of the state as a means to achieve ideals and goals they find important. This makes it almost impossible for them to see my means to achieve any goals ( as a bitcoiner) as anything but a threat and lunacy. So i just fail to see the connection with the word Progressive any longer, personally.

Sometimes a feel like you are holding on too much to that word, friend.

Again your take is 100% right and i dont want to distract from its value ...for me personally its liberalizing to untether myself from the Progressive ideal entirely ( albeit hard at times too as i am a bit 'adrift' now.

Cheers mate keep posting 🤙

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Trey Walsh 2y ago

I hear you and feel that so strongly and go back and forth constantly with the word.

I think my continued use of it stems from wanting those pre-bitcoiner progressives we know to not buy into the FUD from the left around bitcoin, so a bit of marketing in terms of nostr:npub1fpcd25q2zg09rp65fglxuhp0acws5qlphpg88un7mdcskygdvgyqfv4sld etc. and I want so badly to evolve the word progressive to mean the fruition of these values in occupy and other via bitcoin, human rights, social justice, etc.

I know a lot of folks agree with you, and we’ll see lol. But I still like using it and hope people can see my views as amplifying and evolving this state-centric view of progressive as we currently know it.

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🤙 100% friend, keep it up were all in this together even if we differ around the margins.

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Calle's take when he was on WBD was 🎯

Trey Walsh 2y ago

Yes love that ep! And I think that was my first intro to cashu too 😃 nostr:npub12rv5lskctqxxs2c8rf2zlzc7xx3qpvzs3w4etgemauy9thegr43sf485vg

Grace_Too 2y ago

Have you read or come across Brian Gitt’s work? I just came across some on Friday, super enthused about how he described the transformation of his mind and mission from the last 2 decades https://briangitt.com/articles/