That shit with the children puts me in quite the dark place. I got at least one friend who did it to both his. And told me about it so non-chalantly like he was telling me he gave em a candy bar. That fucked me up bad. My roomate who is a RN took the plunge (no pun intended) and has been pretty messed up since. She at least acknowledges it so I'll give her that much credit at least. Whole things is a heart breaking shit show