#Apple #Privacy
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Don’t use iCloud ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
A backdoor gives them more access than iCloud. Its the whole OS.
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Whelp where we Order those Huewi Phones from lol just kidding
But honestly; that sucks for I & whomever
Lmao. Sucks indeed. Im sure Android is just as bad and GrapheneOS is a zero day exploit waiting to happen. I also dont use icloud on my phone.
Now the thought process behind this I am interested in...
These operating systems all have zero day exploits. I dont trust them
Ahh so if I understand what you're saying, it's not "these" operating systems such as specifically naming GrapheneOS in particular or suggesting these may/may not be intentional but your position is you do not trust any hardware or software as they ALL have exploits and vulnerabilities.
Have I got that right?
GrapheneOS has its own problems but I never mentioned only GrapneneOS in particular. I first mentioned Android.
What are the problems GrapheneOS has in particular in your opinion?
Dont get me wrong, Ive been wanting to try GrapheneOS. Just need a Pixel.
To answer you:
REGARDS WIKIPEDIA:
We're familiar with the problems of Wikipedia since multiple groups malicious towards GrapheneOS have invested substantial time and resources in pushing misinformation about GrapheneOS through it. The article about GrapheneOS has highly inaccurate information about our project.
We know that, and it's inaccurate information. Anyone can edit the content on Wikipedia and the rules require writing it based on secondary sources meaning using coverage in traditional media. It's not permitted to correct inaccuracies based on actual facts and primary sources.
If a few news site posts inaccurate information about an open source project, that can and likely will be stated as if it's a fact on Wikipedia. It doesn't matter if it can be refuted through documentation, source code, commit history, etc.
Wikipedia is NOT a reliable source.
Read more regarding the hostile editor and our issues rectifying their actions: https://twitter.com/GrapheneOS/status/1559029079390683139?s=20
The lead dev DID NOT sabotage anything.
The history of the project is easily available here:
https://grapheneos.org/history/
The lead dev protected existing users and the principles of privacy and security against a malicious actor hunting down a Raytheon contract.
Both Daniel and James own 50% of the voting shares of Copperhead, but James is the sole director because Daniel trusted him and wanted him to handle all the business details while Daniel handled all the technical side and ran his open source project the company was building on.
Daniel never wanted to manage an organization or to build a business. The whole point of the company was meant to be having 2 other people better at building and managing a business who would help build a sustainable business model around the open source project.
James has a whole fabricated story about what happens with many false claims about it, and you can trace back nearly all the common misinformation about GrapheneOS and harassment targeting project members including Daniel to James and the people who helped him with the takeover.
James screwed over all our users by taking over the infrastructure/domains and thereby preventing any legitimate updates going forward. He attempted to coerce Daniel into signing over copyright and ownership of the project / signing keys. He knew the company/him didn't own it.
It had been explicitly agreed upon that the open source project was not owned or controlled by the company, and that all donations belonged to the open source project and Daniel could distribute them as he saw fit, not the company. People didn't donate to a for-profit company.
James stole all of the remaining donations he was responsible for passing along including around 5 BTC, money from PayPal, credit card donations, etc. A lot of that was already being previously misused by the company and James instead of going to where it was intended to go.
Due to threats from James and his associates including threatening to involve law enforcement with fabricated stories to get them to seize personal equipment and attempt to coerce control over the signing keys, the signing keys were deleted to protect users from compromise.
James had previously demanded access to the signing keys in order to provide access to Raytheon as part of a contract he wanted to pursue with them. Daniel stood in the way of unethical business deals which James had repeatedly pursued.
James pursued deals with sketchy resellers including Phantom Secure, MPC Secure and others which ended up being organized crime:
https://vice.com/en/article/v7m4pj/the-network-vincent-ramos-phantom-secure
https://vice.com/en/article/kz4yxa/encrypted-phone-company-mpc-helped-martin-kok-murder
There's much more written about it on Vice including a little bit about Copperhead's links to them.
James continued pursuing this approach after the split. He immediately forked the open source project and began a misinformation campaign claiming credit for making it and attempting to destroy the reputation of the open source project, Daniel and other people involved in it.
This included endless legal threats which went nowhere due to their lack of a case, doxxing, extreme harassment, endless sockpuppet accounts including ones used to edit Wikipedia and make false accusations about others (one of which has recently finally been banned), etc.
https://x.com/GrapheneOS/status/1703974830683337011?s=20
I know who I'd rather trust.
Something new happen?
Just reading this.
What, 2009?
I kid, I kid. Still have never owned an iPhone, though.
What happened in 2009.
2009: a town in France, Fécamp, was briefly covered in a blanket of cocoa powder when a "chocolate snow" phenomenon occurred.
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A malfunction at a nearby chocolate factory led to a release of cocoa powder particles into the air, resulting in the town being coated with a thin layer of chocolate dust.
Oops, 07. I was referring to Steve Jobs and the famous macworld iPhone reveal.
Oh. I thought you were referring to a backdoor being found in iOS.
True. Not exactly a back door maybe. But this has been known for years:
Why is germany yellow, olaf?
Hmm. Seems like it should be an Android phone, or maybe a Windows PC.
"98 percent of PRISM production is based on Yahoo, Google, and Microsoft".[1]
That, followed by the San Bernardino case, eh… I’m comfortable with my choices. Big Brother is always watching. Gotta take precautions regardless if you’re gonna engage in wrongthink.
How about this though? What is deemed acceptable today will be wrongthink tomorrow.
This is true. It’s a difficult balancing act. There are legitimate use cases and features built around tracking, etc but it comes with trade offs.
I’m an advocate for knowing your threat model and compartmentalization of your activity. I don’t mind Amazon knowing I like cats, but might not want them knowing I am pro-gun for instance.
I use both Telegram and Threema for the same reason. Telegram is a very nice app, but I don’t say anything there I’m worried about coming out. There are things like Threema and SimpleX for that.
Which is why networks *must* route agnostically. This bit to me is crucial for this exact reason.
Filtering is a *node* issue, and must be watched real close.
Oh, so 2010 /s
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I think you could see that flaw from low earth orbit. I remember it being a real clusterfudge.
And if I heard about it at that time, it was massive.