Start with “is your time and energy worth anything?”
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I think they would say yes. Too valuable to spend managing their own services.
Which I think this the crux of the disconnect. They would rather not have to put the effort in to running their stuff.
I was trying to help one install Ubuntu and he just bitched, were I enjoy figuring that stuff out.
Sometimes you can’t help people. Let the chips fall where they may. You aren’t here to save all of humanity. You gotta pick your spots or you will lose focus.