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You can win any argument by redefining words.

in your own mind tho, only

charity is charity

socialism is a system of government defined by the use of democracy to elect "representatives" who act as "counsellors" for the rest of us and are supposedly "liable" to those who voted for them

when none of these things are true, and actually, the US federal government is by that definition a socialist state and actually so was the Roman Empire and most empires between these two times also fit the same mould.

the ancient greeks didn't do this, it started with the romans, and it was also the romans who gave the name to Fascism, because that is what it is, it's not a republic, if there is democracy as well, a republic operates purely by the rule of the judges, who compete for adjudication services and their rulings form the basis of a collaborative code of law...

we have been in fascist shit since over 2000 years, actually, whatever you want to call it, it's the same if you ask me

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ponymontana💜⚡ 1y ago

families are socialism with few partecipants.

ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇᴀᴛʜ ᴏꜰ ᴍʟᴇᴋᴜ 1y ago

a wife and the children do always have the option of leaving under a situation of duress, if there is witnesses and evidence to support the case

otherwise you are saying that some people just have to suffer under the tyranny of a psychopathic patriarch, that's not ok, and it's not defensible either

ponymontana💜⚡ 1y ago

a lot of people leaved socialist regime so its an option. Tiranny is how socialism (and any collectivist doctrine) can scale to multiple houdreds people.

A not happy wife or a not happy kid can theoretically peacefully leave the family, this dont make the family less a socialism.

ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇᴀᴛʜ ᴏꜰ ᴍʟᴇᴋᴜ 1y ago

i think really that the issue is fascism, which is where there is a binding (slavery) involved

any patriarch who considers his offspring and chattels as being his servants is a tyrant

it doesn't matter the scale, ultimately, it's the slavery, the use of violence to enforce conformity, the lack of ability to aver and disagree and not be attacked for this difference

i would argue that it's not even about this label socialism at all, but rather, if it's a slave system, it's a cult

the cult of rome, the cult of dEmOcRaCy the cult of pUrItY the cult of eQuAlItY

cults, what defines tyrrany is cultic behavior, it's a perversion of the fealty towards a true monarch or patriarch