by the way, "maidan" is an old word for a mine, or miners, i forget which exactly.

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yeah, i learned that because i recognised "maidan" in the name of a mining town in central eastern serbia near the danube in the carpathian mountains. Maidanpek. it refers to the river that runs through it down to the danube. there is a big copper mine near the town. the word for river in most slavic languages is "Reka"