Increasingly, it’s difficult to impossible to use Apple Devices without being leashed to iCloud and all the attendant nonsense that entails. Google/Android isn’t it, either (in before reply guys).

It might be a pipe dream, but we need a third option, not just more Android derivatives.

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Have to say I was quite pleased to move from Apple to Android many years back...

And now (more recently) moving to GrapheneOS I feel the same elation...

I'd encourage anyone dissatisfied with iOS (or Google) to investigate Graphene.

https://grapheneos.org

I appreciate the project and what it’s accomplished. The trick is making it workable beyond niche, personal use. For business, the app support doesn’t seem to be there

Well, you can do as much as you'd like / are comfortable with in terms of apps.

And *if* you can't live without an app, you can sandbox it and use Google Play Services (I'd create a second user profile for that).

So there's really nothing you can't load...but you just need to be aware that you're leaking privacy data if you do.

You can go to Exodus (https://exodus-privacy.eu.org/en/) and search for any app to see what data you're leaking prior to use...great site.

Bottom line, with Graphene you can CHOOSE to share data (or not), whereas with iOS or Google you don't.

I've got my Graphene locked down pretty tight--but YMMV. Still, IMHO it's a much better OS than then others...

Great tips. Thank you.

Welcome--

I get it--it's tough to try Graphene (as you need the a supported Google phone--and they're not cheap) so it is a leap of faith...but if privacy is a concern, it's really the best game in town.

But yeah--buy a new Google phone and you're going to wipe it and install a new OS without even turning it on? Certainly a leap of faith... 😃

Ping me if you ever have questions or need help--happy ro help if I can!

I think the linux phone has a spark, but needs solid funding and focused development work. Pine64 doesn't seem to be moving at a productive rate, relying on community development.

I'm also sure that there is a profitable niche of users that are interested in design that encourages functionality for work, but discourages the "black hole of entertainment" aspects of current phones.

Maybe somebody still remembers Nokia N9 from 2011. It was the first (and the last) Linux phone from Nokia and a very fine device indeed. That could have been the third platform, if it was let to live.

But soon after, an American CEO took control of the company. He had a clause in his contract that would grant him a big bonus if Nokia's handset division was sold. And of course, it was sold to Microsoft. And that was the end of Nokia. Sad!

A fine, fair point.

My pipe dream is humanity throws away their phones and looks up

A noble pipe dream.

I believe there will be an orange option…and not before too long.