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#fasting is something that i think definitely can help with a lot of things

for some time now "calorie restriction" has been positively shown to increase lifespan and health, and it has also been found more recently that fasting stimulates stem cells to regenerate tissue

my issue with type 2 diabetes and peripheral neuropathy, which has slowly developed over the last 10 years, is a clear example of something that this will help with, and something that a lot of people will already be in early stages of developing out there

it is very unfamiliar though, this thing of not eating for days... but once you start to do it it gets more and more normal and you start to understand the process is positive and helpful... and it really does take 3 days for your GI tract to empty out and stop dumping food nutrients into your blood, 4-7 days really is the minimum time to do this for

our digestive systems are a pipeline system, in multiple time-windows from the moment of putting food in your mouth there is a series of processes that run in parallel down the tubes, and they do take 3 days to finally finish at the end, and it is only when that all stops that you are actually fasting

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Pip the WoT guy 1y ago

I never did more than 1 day of fasting. Do u think it makes sense to reduce calorie intake for a few days (still eating, but not much) and than fast for let's say 2 days? This seems more approachable in mind

ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇᴀᴛʜ ᴏꜰ ᴍʟᴇᴋᴜ 1y ago

until you have exceeded 3 days and experienced full ketosis you will think this way, and then afterwards, after it makes your health better for most of the next month, you will come to the same conclusion

long fasts really do have a powerful benefit and should be something you do at least a few times a year

in actual fact, it's possible to go for months without eating food, and with the water you do need to have some electrolytes... in the book Apocalypse of Yajnavalkya they cite a case where one guy went 320 days or something without eating

i've also heard people say that after the 3 day limit there is one set of benefits, and then at 7 days another set of things start to happen

probably there is benefits of intermittent, daily fasting, and sub-3 day fasts they are not as dramatic or convincing as what happens at 3 days and longer

it's like cold plunge, even after you have done it a few times, you still are afraid of it, takes a lot of determination

Pip the WoT guy 1y ago

oh right, I am convinced. Do u recommend some kind of preparation before doing it?

I'll go with 3 days for the first time.

Niel Liesmons 1y ago

1. Fasting is a starvation experiment and doesn't exactly signal abundance to your body

2. For most people too much lipolysis **is** one of their main problems, stimulating more of that might not be the best plan.

3. Fasting only seems to have short term benefits for a specific subset of people, mostly male. Long term it lowers your metabolic rate and increases stress.

Minnesota Starvation Experiment, Ray Peat's blog and Weston A. Price's book changed my mind on all this. Tried all sorts of fasting before, all worsened my state. Nothing helped me like slowly increasing my calorie intake, with good food.

ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇᴀᴛʜ ᴏꜰ ᴍʟᴇᴋᴜ 1y ago

no i'm a noob at this too, only literally achieved it first time about 6 weeks ago and the effects were amazing, what really was most notable was that i could really feel that my liver was burning fat and my body was warmed up way more than it had been in years

that benefit has withered away to nothing again now and i'm feeling like hell, and it was like almost a month of feeling almost healthy again

namosca 1y ago

I fast some days also and feel its amazing.

You can fast daily using interval fasting, in which you can eat during at time window of 8 hours, and on the remaining 16 hours you can only drink. Its quite good.

To be practical, I just skip breakfast, as I want to have dinner with my wiife

ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇᴀᴛʜ ᴏꜰ ᴍʟᴇᴋᴜ 1y ago

i used to do such fasts without any intention when i was in my 20s, related to depression... sometimes i'd eat almost nothing for days running, but it wasn't full fasting

short fasts are good but really, you will understand once you break through after 3 days and how it changes your body, it's like a really slow drug dose, if you know what i mean... when you are used to using drugs to do things to your system, it gets easier to keep doing them, and this can be unhealthy, but 3 days fasting is something you really must do at least once or twice a year

namosca 1y ago

I already do it. After 3 days I start to feel very very happy and grateful

ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇᴀᴛʜ ᴏꜰ ᴍʟᴇᴋᴜ 1y ago

yeah, i am intensely wishing to experience that again, it's difficult to remember to not eat... i literally tend to take 2 days sorta just eventually cutting out the wine and the coffee as well, i'm just trying to see to do it the same way as led me to it last time, it took the full 3 days before it started and the first sign of it was the warmth and the acetone smell in my pee

Consciousness Incarnate 1y ago

Fasting is uber powerful cleanser and healing naturally and free.