"Calvin argues the Shroud of Turin is fake. It shows a full-body image on one sheet, but John 19 describes Jewish burial using a body sheet and separate head cloth. If the Shroud were real, it'd contradict the Bible—making its promoters liars." -Grok
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It actually captured Calvin's position correctly. He might have been wrong, though.
There is a separate head cloth
That's right - the Sudariam of Oviedo was linked to the cruxification, long after Calvin's time, in the 20th century.
The practice of a single whole body cloth and a seperate face shroud for the interior was not uncommon amongst the Jews at the time.
Calvin could have simply been wrong.
https://www.traveler.com/the-shroud-of-turin-and-sudarium-of-oviedo/
Keep researching the shroud, it’s very interesting, and hard to discount.
I will. Still: Christianity is not about relics, it's about Jesus Christ alone. Even over indexing on relics of Christ can be idolatry. Fascinating regardless.
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Yeah I feel you, we are prone to idolizing, but Christ the Logos was incarnate and physically present on earth meaning physical aspects of his presence shouldn’t be discarded off hand. We modern materialists discount the tightly woven relationship between the spiritual and physical, even though we take it for granted it in our own soul/body union.
Certainly not to be discarded. And reasonable to even be treasured.
