I always love to ask people why they believe. The epistemology of first person experiences with God is very interesting to me. Thank you for sharing some of the details. And yeah, it’s like meditation.. people who have never experienced some of these things for themselves have a hard time believing they would think differently if they had. Maybe radically differently. Such a self is so hard to imagine that people just assume it doesn’t exist.

I wish they could consider though the impact of finding good reasons to believe they have been seen by (and now maybe I’m assuming details of your experience you didn’t share but..) and are important to a divine and divinely-loving being.

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I deeply appreciate good natured questions, whatever their purpose brother. You certainly have the credibility with me to deserve a good answer.

It is something very easy to discard if you haven’t had the experience, so I try to not be offended by it. I was once them. Nor do I find any superiority in it - I just consider myself extremely lucky. I wish a similar experience for everybody because of the good and the value it has had for me.

I think the disregard can go both ways. Those who have had that experience, or even worse those who by pride assume themselves the possessor of some obvious truth that only a blockhead would miss, are equally hurtful as the individual who has not and believes it must all be hallucination, or made up.

That’s one of the things that draws me here. We start by saying “stay humble.” It’s hard to truly do, but I think it’s one of the best pursuits.