Money & Markets in a Post AGI World w/ nostr:nprofile1qyxhwumn8ghj7mn0wvhxcmmvqy28wumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnyv9kh2uewd9hsqg9lc6hcy3xu9pv7lh7saqdx5705acu4h3u2eveq9dhjs7su5w38kvgy3cya (founder, nostr:nprofile1qyv8wumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytnyd4nkgtnddah8xar9wgq37amnwvaz7tmwdaehgu3wv45kuatwv3a8wctw0f5kwtnnwpskxegqyzj0289p85hhlk7juqf3rnyczlhd07qqwp6n40v3epfggq0j55h8urlk0g4 )

YouTube: https://youtube.com/watch?v=QNMGxLD6HyU&t=7s

Fountain: https://fountain.fm/episode/cMfF2cqzslLfD8m1MXlo

Substack: https://substack.com/home/post/p-155970718?source=queue

Jordi is is one of the few people in the world with a deep understanding of the concurrent singularities of AI and Bitcoin. He has particularly novel thoughts on the nature of money and markets post AGI/ASI. This was a fascinating discussion - hope you enjoy!

Topics:

- How Jordi became AGI/ASI pilled (language = code)

- The concurrent singularities of AGI/Bitcoin (almost no-one understands them both)

- Two fundamental types intelligence: 1) desire / will and 2) implementation

- AGI capabilities: all implementation, “will” remains to be seen

- As long as there are still multiple groups who own things, different perspectives, and multiple groups reach AGI/ASI around the same time, we’ll still need markets for coordination

- Markets forming between agents (and humans) should create brand new economic theory untestable heretofore

- Jordi outlines several novel forces for markets in a world with agents in [Beyond the Sum: Unlocking AI Agents Potential Through Market Forces](https://arxiv.org/abs/2501.10388): 1) perfect replication of actors, 2) dynamic instantiation (and deletion) of actors, 3) collective learning with perfect information, and 4) resource fluidity for agents

- The role of Nostr and an emergent web of trust in filtering information in this new Internet

- Gigi’s articles on how a better currency/payment system can lead to better business models: [Attention is a Terrible Currency](https://dergigi.com/threads/attention) and [Value for Value](https://dergigi.com/value/)

- Comparing the early Lightning Network to the early Internet

- Building http://fewsats.com: payment infrastructure for AI agents. Jordi’s new demo: http://sherlockdomains.com - a domain registrar made for AI agents

- Is python now the lingua franca? How do we get more bitcoin and nostr libraries in python?

- The future of Nostr as the open identity/communication standard for humans and agents

- AI / agent predictions for 2025

Full discussion: https://stacker.news/items/869257