> you have no idea, as an end user , what privacy protections you are getting in any given LN tx

Still looking for an LN tx? All day I've been asking monero users to show me an LN transaction and identify the sender, recipient, and amount. So far they haven't even found a *transaction to analyze.* Care to step up?

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explain to me how

as an end user,

i should assess the privacy of ANY given LN tx.

I'll wait.

this

"if some rando on the Internet can't trace a random tx, it must be private"

game doesnt prove jack shit.

there IS **NO** lightning network TX. It does not exist.

you **can** cryptographically verify that intermediate nodes can't determine the recipient's identity, but there is NO public ledger of all the transactions.

there's no obscurity or hope, I recommend you to actually read about how lightning works, because you seem to have many misunderstandings

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heres the standard info bro

yes I am aware it isnt a blockchain.

as an end user, i am making a transaction.

If I cannot evaluate my anonset before sending, It is not a good privacy tool.

https://www.voltage.cloud/blog/lightning-network-privacy-explainer

there is no anonset the way that it's there in monero.

when you generate a lightning invoice you have:

- a pubkey that says where your money needs to end up

- a signature proving the invoice is legit and hasn't been messed with

- a payment hash that works like your digital receipt

that's really all you need! the magic happens in how it works: each node in the path only sees one hop before and after itself.

This was helpful. Thanks.

and you aren't responding to a

ANY of the concerns in the site I linked.

theres a new one of these every few months.

Because this is a network that is effectively still in beta testing.

Quit trying to push it as a finished tested product

https://eprint.iacr.org/2021/384.pdf