nostr:npub1ezw0xm0w52rd4yfdg9zlw9qvwdy46alzelklkefptrd203m37tuq4djmeg can you shed some light on this? nostr:npub1mu9wmykl7qx5llk69axd3rvk0hzhdd25jsqtj2hmnzjpn2sxum6s8jjj0t mentioned it was not as it appears. ?

Seems legit.

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most of the farmers protesting are not the friends of nature. their animals are pharmacies and their fields are poisened by glyphosate. farmers are businessmen, there is nothing romantic about them. they don't produce healthy products, they want to make as much profit as possible (at all costs). but the farmers have the advantage of their big machines, such a protest looks good on tv (and is shown on msm all over the place here in europe). protests of nurses or teachers aren't that effective, because they don't have machines to shut down the streets of a whole country. and what are the german farmers protesting against? the government wants to cut subsidies for them ... subsidies paid from tax payer's money to businesses, which made (looking back at the last 10+ years) record earnings in 2023. socialism is pervert, but socialism supporting groups in society, which earn already not bad money is crazy.

... and of course there are still farmers out there, not looking on profits only, and i want them to survive, but they are a very small minority ... and their enemy aren't the consumers, they get crushed by their "monsanto" collegues.

sorry, chart is in german ... purple line: total earnings in euro/year

Unfortunately what you say is mostly true…

it's just sad 😣

Why I said mostly because protests at least put a important sign into the world: we can’t continue like that.. and I hope people see this and not see the begging for profit 🥲

I was also thinking of how would a world look like, if the focus was biodiversity and not profit. The world would be more beautiful and efficient…💚

that's a good point ... and hopefully this focus farming gets at the moment will help having such discussion about the direction agraculture should go, because like you said: farming for profit only is a dead end street for all of us, not just the farmers. there has to be a change ... and not only on the farmer's side, but on the side of the consumers too

It's a product of subsidies, all the european countries are subsidizing the farmers and if some of them stop it will kill their farmers. At the same time the subsidies are finetuned so the farmers are forced to do things that the govt wants them to do. It's central planning with extra steps.

I'm not sure the majority of the farmers would like the govt to go away completely. They just want their piece of pie (not to shrink).

most of the farmers want those subsidies for sure ... in germany protests started because the government cut the subsidies on diesel

cut on tax cuts on diesel :)

I wonder if all the subsidies and taxes went away, what the balance would be.

In any case, all the subsidies are connected to many strings and hoops you have to jump through. They force you to invest in tech they want you to use. They tell you what, where, how you can do.

There is also continuous satelite imaging to constantly monitor your crops so you follow the condition of the subsidies. If anything looks sus on the satelite photo the ground inspection teams are deployed. So you know, you don't cheat somehow.

This all of course is comming with ever growing mountains of paperwork .

You can't opt out, because then you are uncompetitive.

This what I was able to find about the subject just looking around in the media, so it's not the whole picture and it's maybe distorted a bit.

In any case, what kind of people want to play this game? How healthy is it for the society?