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As some of you know I believe Bitcoin can give us back monetary freedom again; that is, the right to use the money we like best.

I hold this freedom to be the single most important of them all.

And as I've said repeatedly, my ancestors in Trøndelag were probably living in the part of the civilized world in the West that managed to keep their monetary freedom the longest.

They lost it in 1050 AD with Harald Hardråde's killing of Einar Tambarskjelve.

It's beginning to sink in with me what the most important reason was:

A lowering of my ancestors' time preference, over a period of approximately two generations, or about 60 years.

This was probably enough to make them betray their simple code, which in essence said that every Trønder was obliged to kill the King who didn't rule by consent.

Once the betrayel was a fact, there was no turning back.

We ended up with which soon will be a full 1000 years of tyranny, where we have got small ruling class, and one big class of serfs.

That's a fakin big price to pay for betraying the code.

Unforgiveable.

But explainable.

Now, this change, which happened over the 60 years prior to 1050 AD, probably had everything to do with religion.

And herein lies the challenge:

Revealing this analysis in Arrow of Truth will probably make many people pissed at me.

So be it.

It's more important to learn from the story.

People being mad at me is unimportant in this perspective.

The social layer of Bitcoin is what may constitute Bitcoin's weakest link.

And if we don't learn from the past, we are bound to live with a high risk of repeaing the same mistake.

I'd rather would like to avoid that, if I could.

So is your take that religion caused the issue or that a shift away from religion caused it?

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Simply put, the combination of

- Chrstianity with one god

- the king becoming God's representative, religious leader and protector of the parish, which would be the people of Norway

- the concept of heaven and hell

was the complete opposite of what they had prior to that. This lowered people's time preference in several ways, most notably be taking their focus away from the importance of protecting your own bloodline. When they didn't have any promise of eternal life after death, as it was with their former religion, their focus would naturally be on honor, grateness and the name of their own family.

It's kins of counterintuitive, because the Norse religion has been seen as something barbaric, while Christianity was more human.

I guess it matters a lot how you practice your religion.

But of course, the king wouls try to corrupt Christianity and remodel this religion into becoming political tools, "weaponizing" the religion you might said.

And this paved the way for weaponizing the money.

The rest is history, as they say.

Yes, it is strange how religion can serve either as a tool of liberation or of oppression, just like most social constructs and sources of power.

You would think that the idea of an afterlife would cause high time preference, since ideas like honor and greatness could theoretically persist for the individual. What value is a strong family after you pass, if individuals encounter oblivion, and therefore it makes no difference in the end?

Ironically, you could cast this as idolatry in a religious context: idolizing corruptible human authority figures. When you understand that "infinite, unknowable" God is the only source of truth, it forces you to be more skeptical of your fellow man.

Thus I think dogmatism and blind belief is the real culprit here. You see the same thing with the Science™ and secular fiat sheeple today.

Well put