Cashu is fully custodial fwiw.
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Of course. There are trade offs though - either cashu with private lightning withdrawals or immediate lightning payments with less privacy.
But you’re right, I suppose lightning direct is “less” custodial. I tend to prefer the idea of cashu since most lightning is custodial or small payments can cause issues these days anyway.
Honestly the more I think about it… seems like cashu is the better end goal for any platform that is inherently custodial at some level, which I think we’ve established ocean is. If they run their own mint then withdrawing cashu is effectively the same as lightning, but users have more options to protect their privacy.