Is it cheesy to use 📁 📂 icons, or is that relatable UX?

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The latter.

The people have spoken. 🫡

there's no better one i can see in unicode, other than that the classic CVS style thing... which i can't find anywhere, and nearest i find is the reverse of this symbol in the cyrillic "ch": Ч

ah there is a close one, some strange symbol for 2: ߂

oh yes, there is an old school notation from books §

but yeah, for something to represent sections of a tree the folder is the best in all unicode probably, plus you can represent it being opened as well with the open form (second one you put there)

It's confusion because 30040's content has an order to it.

Yes, that's the order that should display, when you open the folder. You can sort differently, from there.

I quite like the idea, actually.

I wonder if it helps in solving the tags vs folders choices we're having to make.

📁 Folder:

- Do you want it to be zappable, repliable, referencable, ... as a whole?

- Do you want to define a suggested order to the content?

- Is it nested in something else in a useful way?

🏷️ Tags / Labels:

- Is the primary goal categorization?

- Do you want the label to be zappable, repliable, referencable, ... ?

Yes! We are also using labels/tags for categorizing and folders for organizing/ordering/structuring.

It also makes it very clear that a "Follow" = a Label, not an addition to a Folder.

At least, to me.

Yes, it's an attribute of something already existing.

Lists are when you take a bundle of similar things and slap one big label on them because you're too lazy to give them each a label. And then you're limited by how many things can go into this bundle, and changing any item in the bundle means you have to issue all of them a new label, which is retarded.

You know I like to dev close to the domain, so I tend to want to pull things into a concept that has a real-life counterpart. I like to imagine people opening the folder and seeing the papers and photos and things inside of it, in the order that the person who filled the folder thought was sensible. They can then temporarily reorder them, to sift through them. Or they could get a different folder, make copies of everything, and put the copies in their own folder, in the order they prefer, and maybe add some more papers to the folder.

This is something fundamentally different than writing a list (documenting things that are somehow related) or sticking a label on something, to make it easier to recognize, if you see it, again.

You could stick a label on a folder like "my favorite vacation photos" or "Catholic stuff", but not vice-versa.