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Replying to Avatar Vitor Pamplona

Correct. You have to keep the ratcheting state outside of Nostr, which means that either only one client had access to your DM and/or different clients see different DMs, or that you have a way to import and export the ratcheting state from app to app manually, off from nostr.

The later becomes a better point of attack. You don't need to break the decryption if you can just get the state by attacking the import/export function directly.

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Sirius 1y ago

What would this attack look like in practice, against Signal for example?

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τέχνη 1y ago

Device access, no? It’s why a lot of people think ratcheting is overkill. Because device access is total access anyway

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