Do you remember what the world of chat apps looked like before Signal?

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I think I do remember, I remember Signal started as TextSecure, an app for encrypting SMS messages, but that world is largely the same world as of today (today people are using Telegram and Instagram DMs and that stuff), but I get your point: Signal is better than nothing. I just consider the sheer worship of Signal that some people demonstrate to be dangerous and worrisome.

Can you find any criticism of Signal on the internet by any serious privacy advocate? No, everybody loves Signal unconditionally, there is no mood for improvement nor any love for solutions that are much better (at least in principle) such as Simplex.

And yet Signal is collecting all possible metadata about all its users and conversations, and all its users have a KYC phone number attached to their accounts. Is this false?

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some history:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Whisper_Systems

yes, TextSecure was part of it, so was RedPhone

i used RedPhone back in 2013, i didn't know anything about TextSecure

also, to be clear, the entire gamut of "E2EE" chat apps do this, whatsapp, facebook messenger, and telegram, they all are derivative, as i understand it

I used both of them