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research chems are falling off due to bans in the most important manufacturing countries like china and the netherlands. the last really unique ones were dissociatives and they're not making any good ones anymore. I miss MXE soooo bad but if you're really lucky you might still find DMXE which is almost as good. oldies but goodies like 2C-E are almost extinct and all the good MDMA/MDA substitutes are going too.

Ian 5mo ago

MXE was interesting. I did have some nice K earlier this year. That’s always pleasant. I do kinda miss 2C-E. You are right about that. That was the best of the family if I recall correctly. I had some 2C-E/MDMA in little green tablets with amber speckles. Still annoyed my friends lost the last handful to the cops. I went drove 12 hours around trip for those!

So what’s the implication? It’s all drying up or most of what’s out now is crap? I’m planning on getting back out there so maybe I’ll be able to update you on where we are now in the physical market (at least in my neck of the woods) sometime later.

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goatmeal 5mo ago

things are gradually shifting back to the tried and true illegal mainstays. the clearnet is basically no longer a viable option unless you're in the EU and ready to pick up whatever scraps are still left. legitimate 2C-B managed to escape and graduate to becoming one of the big boys, only to be swept up by the confusing pink cocaine fad. rc benzos are still floating around.

botanicals are still here, lots of amanita muscaria products, but there are "mushroom chocolate bars" that don't contain real psilocybin and they're fucking everywhere right now. synthetic weed has basically gone extinct. the united states government is trying to fight alkyl nitrites but you can still get them. nitrous oxide has exploded in popularity and now comes in tanks the size of a 2 liter soda bottle, and some states are trying to ban it. 7-hydroxymitragynine sublingual tablets are becoming more popular.

Ian 5mo ago

Haha, pink cocaine. I found that slightly confusing myself. I get the branding. Are we clear on what they were mixing exactly? I’ve only heard things secondhand.

Yeah, I figured. That type of thing happened a lot when they legalized weed too (bullshit edibles). Synthetic weed as in Marinol or as in that JWH spice bullshit everyone was doing 15 years ago? In either case, good.

Nitrous was always popular near me. The Russian mob will bring tanks wherever you want em if you know the right people, but those turn up at warehouse parties all the time. There’s numerous after hours solely dedicated to that as well. If I can get a fair buy-in, I’ll indulge.

goatmeal 5mo ago

>Are we clear on what they were mixing exactly

it's completely random every time, plus a red pigment. they will call it "tussy/tuci/tucibi" but it never has 2C-B in it. the news articles have spread so much that normal people who didn't already know what real 2C-B is will probably avoid 2C-B because they think it's not even a real drug

Ian 5mo ago

Poppers are still in most sex shops if I’m not mistaken. Kratom I’ve dabbled in once or twice, but I want to give it a real go.