Used to run Arch on the desktop on an old laptop back in the day, now I only have Arch on a couple VPS. I will admit Arch devs have been absolutely sloppy lately with package/system updates. I also had a kernel problem when I used Arch on Digital Ocean, but it was a custom unsupported install I did years ago before it finally kernel panicked. It's usually fine if you don't do partial system upgrades and don't use testing repo sources. FWIW Debian 12 on my X1 Thinkpad has been a very stable desktop experience. Coming from someone who has used Arch since 06, I would never recommend Arch on the desktop for development

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Agree. 💯

I've been using Linux on the desktop for 20+ years. If I want it to just work, Debian is awesome. I find these days appimage, flatpak, and docker have eased a lot of the pain of running newer packages on a stable Debian core.

Debian is truly great in the cloud. Once drivers for my hardware hit maturity in Linux I’m definitely giving deb another spin. In the meanwhile I may try it in a VM.

i've crossed in the opposite direction. i poked at debian but it wasn't any different materially from ubuntu or pop os. pop generally has been the best descendant of debian/ubuntu for gaming laptops i've found, but i got really fed up with a whole range of issues, debian, ubuntu, linux kernel, and gnome, and manjaro was just annoying with the setup.

arch has been as pleasant on my MSI bravo (which i had to sell to keep feeding myself while i work) and this old crappy lenovo ideapad 3.

several things that i have much preferred with arch is being able to set up a single efi partition with a single system partition on LUKS with only one password login, the "downgrade" program, which makes kernel management a dream, and cinnamon, i have tried several others, lxde, kde, mate, but cinnamon is just the best for a small display.

oh yeah, and i didn't mention wayland. i hate wayland, so much. wayland plus the recent version 6 kernels is such a mess, some kernels make outright garbage on the display, some don't let me change to other display modes, still others don't have working power management.

oh yeah and linux-hardened... i'm not tolerating any sniff of malware anymore after having several of my systems breached in recent months mainly by browser flaws. i had brave sync suddenly have a new unknown device appear on it. a youtube adblocker suddenly was being flagged as malware infected, and i do wonder now for how long. so i have also switched over to firefox and set it to lock everything down as well.

my system runs beautifully now, even on a 6.4 kernel, 20gb of ram with radeon APU and zram swap enabled, except for the nicer 144hz display and fast GPU i almost don't miss my bravo 15.