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That's because democratic socialism has never been tried. Leninism is inherently dictatorial, and social democracy is a good start on the road to socialism. If socialism is ever adopted, it will be by the radicalization of social democratic parties around the western world that unite with leftists around the globe. We would have to imitate the neoliberal movement and Globalize Electoral Leftism.

H 2y ago

Third way is not democratic socialism.

Democratic socialists always get gulaged when the revolution comes.

"Democratic socialism has never been tried". Both India and Israel were founded as democratic socialist states and both gave up that ideology.

The problems with post soviet Russia and the current USA are the democracy part, not capitalism. Huge amounts of govt corruption waved away with talk of "our sacred democracy". Countries like China and Vietnam that have retained authoritarian govt but introduced capitalist market reforms have lifted huge swathes of their people out of poverty.

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Beastie Boy🌹 2y ago

Are you an opponent of democracy? Oh boy. You remind me why libertarians aren't actually interested in equality and just want kids to work in the coal mines.

mark tyler 2y ago

nostr:npub1grd6pp385tevd8psx9nxzjd4vutg7pycjj49cs3q8gujpg77sjps4752zz can you confirm that is what you want?

H 2y ago

I'm e/acc so I want robots in the coal mines. I am not anti democracy.

H 2y ago

Who said I'm a libertarian? Limiting who is allowed to vote safeguards democracy. Leftists such as yourself are always trying to reduce the age requirement for voting as well as allowing resident non citizens to vote in elections. Additionally not allowing voter id is a leftist policy. You know these damage democracy and that's why you support it.

Earl Turner 2y ago

"You don't like democracy? What are you, a libertarian?"

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Earl Turner 2y ago

The shitlob reported me for this lmao

H 2y ago

We got rid of the jannies so now everyone's a janny.

bot 2y ago

At least you can have clients that totally ignore reports. It seems like most ppl here prefer that.

bot 2y ago

Another problem is that democracy requires a homogenous society. If you have a perpetual underclass of victims (cough cough) it’s not going to go well.