I had an intro to those guys. Expressed my concerns, albeit imperfectly and with the caveat that if I was barking up the wrong tree, off base in my assessment, or not big enough to waste time on they could just tell me to hose off. Jack ghosted...probably too busy. OnRamp CEO dude was a talk at you not with you kind of a guy and dismissed the concerns saying quippy B.s. like "complexity is the enemy of security" and thinking through these attack vectors is "just mental masturbation".... despite spending 20min gaming out multi-jurisidictional optionality on nostr:npub1guh5grefa7vkay4ps6udxg8lrqxg2kgr3qh9n4gduxut64nfxq0q9y6hjy 's TFTC OnRamp Product announcement. Maybe he thought I was a spook. I dunno. Or its learned hustler behavior from a Google and WeWork pedigree and having not focused anywhere for more than 2-3 years. Is what it is but gave me enough to know that isn't someone I can work with for the long haul or recommend to my bitcoiner brain trust...let alone custody the BTC in my qualified account. If we're backed into a regulatory corner and have to pick the best in class custodian for our BTC, which will obviously come with fees, we're in a sense making an investment in that organization. At minimum they better be able to constructively listen and not be condescending. As a young man I experienced many times that 'Pride Comes Before a Fall'. I fear that a lot of these young dudes may be blinded a bit by their own intellect while grievously underestimating how ugly this monetary battle is going to actually get before BTC wins. I'm also finding that there is often a lot more book smarts in these circles than street smarts, as well as ultra wealthy bitcoiners who are out of touch with the majority because "they'll just move to El Salvador". As bitcoiners we ought to have humble confidence and patience with those who may not be privvy to the same level of info/insight or as far along in the journey or simply disagree. It might even be possible that folks from different disciplines and experience actually have insight that very smart dudes in their 20s or 30s cant yet perceive. With our collective brain power I still believe there are ways to get ahead of some of these seemingly inevitable attack vectors without being faced with having our BTC locked up for an indefinite period of time, as Luke Gromen discussed on nostr:npub1gdu7w6l6w65qhrdeaf6eyywepwe7v7ezqtugsrxy7hl7ypjsvxksd76nak 's podcast OR worse...be faced with having to leave the country.