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Yes, I don’t fail to pay attention to the weaponization of almost everything done with good intentions.

Just because you didn’t celebrate it in your family before it was a national holiday doesn’t mean millions of Americans didn’t for decades before and have worked for years to have it be a holiday nationally and not just observed in their state. It’s anecdotal and I’m only saying it because the way you responded but my family has observed it for decades - it’s nothing new and it’s silly to imply otherwise.

No, im not reading some right-leaning or left-leaning article recommend to me by someone being as outwardly defensive as you are being.

I’m not saying you can’t consider yourself the victim and think your values are being attacked. It’s weird and irrelevant to me, I have no idea what you’re talking about regarding that, but go ahead.

“Call me racist” - I didn’t say anything remotely like that. I’m not calling you anything, I asked a clarify question because I wanted to make an informed decision on associating myself with, using, or financially supporting anything you work on with Nostr, Coracle or otherwise.

If your referenced values have you act the way you are now, then I want nothing to do directly with them, or you, or what you are making. That’s all I wanted to be sure of.

A strength of Nostr is that we don’t have to agree with others wholly to support parts Nostr. Those of us who have values they want to hold true to have to be sure of what they are associating with or supporting, regardless of who or what those values may be.

Thanks for clarifying.

Take care.

> If your referenced values have you act the way you are now, then I want nothing to do directly with them, or you, or what you are making. That’s all I wanted to be sure of.

This idea that _regular people_ need to be boycotted as a moral imperative because they said an opinion you disagree with, has got to stop.

Because you know what happens? You get so sub-divided that your enemy wins.

"Two leftists walk into a bar. Three splinter groups form."

You and staab probably share the majority of your values. Thou shalt not kill? Check. Treat people equally? Check.

How does it help marginalized people to boycott a developer of open source software? So people can continue being stuck in Facebook/Instagram/TikTok where they are treated like cattle?

I assure you if staab had the funds to be a CEO of a multinational corporation, which he doesn't, he would not discriminate in hiring.

I will never understand why leftists go after middle-class people on the internet instead of actual villains. Oh wait I know why, because it's an easy target. You can just pretend you did something good for the world instead of having to get a picket sign and stand at city hall.

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I agree with a lot of what you’re saying. I disagree that it’s not worth preferring to use the products of those who you agree with and financially supporting (zaps to donos) those who are doing things aligned with your beliefs, whatever they may be. I’m not going to advocate for anyone else to boycott anything, I just don’t want to associate with a message or whoever says it that I don’t believe in. That’s OK.

I don’t think it has got to stop. I’m not marginalizing, I’m choosing.

I’ll still tell everyone I know of that is looking for features Coracle has that Coracle is a great app, I’m just not going to use it if I don’t support the developer. At least before he reproached it.

I don’t think by preferring to support only some products of NOSTR and none of the mainstream apps you mention am I creating an environment where those mainstream apps are having a benefit.

Re - leftist labeling crap. Believe what you want but let me get back to my owned land and property in the United States with my wife and kids where I spend my time aligning with conservative ideals while I celebrate national holidays when I have time to post on social media I typically avoid.

Side note - I too am glad we’re not just talking about Bitcoin.