I think it was a huge mistake by democrats to demonize Joe Rogan over the past few years. Then they compounded the error by rejecting invitations to his show as well as others, like Lex Fridman during the 2024 election.

I spent a large part of Covid lockdown era puttering around the house, working on various projects, riding bikes a lot, doing chores, all the time listening to long form podcasts. That’s when I got hooked.

(Although I also remember listening to the original Ricky Gervais show 15-20 years ago and that was just him and Stephen Merchant talking about random stuff for hours on end)