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General Motors….

Nostr culture still feels a bit alien to me, trying to find topics to interact with is difficult. I know I’m new here and so is the platform (well in organic, non VC type of way). and I’m going to persevere, mainly as I think V4V is very interesting as an independent music maker.

I didn’t come from X and ‘Bitcoin X’ never interested me. Someone referred to ‘Bitcoin Tourette’s yesterday and it summed up my thoughts pretty well on Dorsey and Musk’s platform.

I suspect I’m not the only one that thinks funny eyes, being called hodl something and memes about Jay Powell and Janet Yellen non stop just isn’t that interesting.

Do I have something more exciting to contribute? Not particularly. To many here perhaps I’m a ‘normie’ but from someone who’s worked in music their whole life that’s wrong, I know so many strange people that I call friends. We ain’t normal lol. My music, which is kind of odd and not poppy is already in a niche lane within a niche lane.

It would be great to get to know more people here, I’ll keep chipping away….

Why am I saying this? I’m just saying some shit it the hope that at some point people start interacting.

Laeserin 1y ago

I love Bitcoin, as a topic, and would probably never completely tire of talking about, and the same goes for Nostr, but I actually like talking about The Other Stuff more.

And I've been trying to talk more about that Other Stuff, but it can be hard to find people to interact with on other topics because they don't usually get enough momentum to make the main trending list. Developers haven't had enough incentive to correct for that because the Bitcoiners are paying the bills and the people who paid for the music get to choose which song is played.

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Laeserin 1y ago

But I think that's changing. I think developers are slowly coming to the realization that hosting an online Bitcoin club isn't worth inventing a new communications protocol.

Some of the newer developers don't really care about Bitcoin as a topic; they just see it as potential income. Some of them don't even care about Nostr as a movement; they just see it as a more-or-less useful tool.

Which is a step forward, in my opinion.

Normie Devs incoming.

Layerjack (Onion Knight) 1y ago

Bitcoin is fine historically. It is obsolete and it has failed to achieve its whitepaper goal of being an electronic cash system. Nostr and Bitcoin X are just a cult of greedy retards who parrot the same stupid shit like store of value, freedom, mathematically proven.

Everyone who isn't absorbed in the number go up bullshit understands why Monero or even Dogecoin is superior to Bitcoin.

In a way, the ostrich is a perfect maskot because it was meant to fly but chose to walk.

Nostr will not replace Twitter. As you can see bitcoin cultists are already leaving in droves. So who's gonna stay? Fedi folks who are interested in censorship resistance, Loli posters, a small number of folks from Iran and China.

Somebody already pointed out that Nostr is just scuttlebutt and will end up similarly.

Laeserin 1y ago

I have never thought the goal should be to replace Twitter. That's not my fight, so I don't care about how it's going.

Layerjack (Onion Knight) 1y ago

What do you see as a worthy goal then? Marketplace?

Laeserin 1y ago

Adding a common login and social layer to any space, and integrating the feed, rather than having lots of smaller, disconnected spaces controlled by governments and big corporations.

Once you remove those two things from a space, that space has to add value in its own right. Nostr doesn't solve for a particular space having boring or uninteresting content.

inpc 1y ago

The Fediverse has done fairly well with just people being people.

Laeserin 1y ago

Yeah, and we have a Fedibridge, now, right?

So 🤷‍♀️

inpc 1y ago

Indeed, I just posted about Peertube to see if anyone here is on there.

Layerjack (Onion Knight) 1y ago

I don't use any social media (except for this one, cause its anonymous), and I see no value in the social layer.

Rule of thumb, engaging content = well funded content. For that, I watch HBO, they spend $100M on a show. 100x of the entire funding of Nostr. Corporations and governments will always create better content than a bunch of shitposters.

I still like how there are a few cool people here. Granted, most of them came from fedi

Laeserin 1y ago

You misunderstand the social layer.

Social layer is like comments under YouTube channels or newspaper articles, recipe or movie ratings, developer discussions about code-change proposals, websites that allow you to book hotels and complain publicly about the dirty bathrooms or post pics of the delicious breakfast buffet, chatting during a video conference or while watching someone stream, contacting a restaurant to make a reservation, etc.

It's a way of letting users discuss what they're looking at or interact with the source of what they're looking at.

You still need people running hotels, filming movies, or writing well-researched articles. And Twitter is where news is often breaking, so Nostr doesn't need to do that (yet). It needs to integrate the breaking Twitter news better, so that people can discuss it here.

inpc 1y ago

Mine neither but I see Nostr as an extension of Bitcoin and much of Bitcoin seems to revolve around stuff on X.

Like I say, that webpage has never been my jam.

What do I want from SM? A place to find like minded peeps and chat, share common interests, maybe a little of what's going on in the wider world but with decent filters applied. Pretty basic stuff.

I actually think a lot of the old, pre Facebacon web was cool. I loved goofy music production forum off topic stuff. Really niche but a lot of fun.

Maybe I need more private groups? I'm not sure to be honest. I just know in the two social media accounts I have (here and Fedi) aren't quite hitting it for me, in this time.

I'm not being defeatist. If anything I'm making my presence known chatting shit in the belief eventually I'll find some community. However, maybe in this next stage of internet, social media is net negative? I appreciate I come with more questions than answers. I don't pretend to be an expert about anything.

Laeserin 1y ago

Discussion boards and long-article blogs will become more interesting. Places where you go to read and talk about specific things with other people who are interested in those things.

That's what I miss from the pre-SM era and Nostr can combined the two eras very neatly.

But these are additional apps that are being planned and built. The Twitter-clone stuff is just the first thing built because it was the impetus for some devs to start building.