How do you have property rights without a judicial system?
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Yeah, kind of the point. I think you would still have property rights, but without police and a judicial system they become inconvenient to enforce. You can’t just challenge someone to a duel every time they break a contract.
Do you exist?
If yes, you have rights to own things that are acquired morally. It's up to you to defend your property.
Done. Move along.
Sorry, thats not an argument against what I’m saying, so it’s not “done.” For the arguments that I am putting forward, taxation is not an infringement of property rights because it is part of a negotiated exchange.
Again: what negotiation? Where's the contract? What do I explicitly get in return for over a third of my paycheck being taken from me and the other two thirds are being inflated away so quickly it's making my head spin.
What agreement? Don't you dare use "social contract." that doesn't exist and never has.
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I wouldn’t mind paying taxes if I received some social services, once upon a time while floating in the Caribbean with a fellow scuba diving Swede, this topic arose….he paid 27% income tax; paid generous birthing leave, paid daycare, paid medical, paid post secondary education, the list of benefits goes on. I get a huge military, and a giant parasitic class who leverages the military for gains above and beyond for the elite parasites, the wealthiest 1%. With all the loopholes in US tax code, only the working class pay meaningful taxes on income, the very people who can least afford it. It’s criminal.
I can't agree with that. What's mine is mine and no one has a right to it unless I agree to give it to them for some mutual benefit.
Well there are things that are best accomplished with broad taxation for generalized use, roads for example. I’m not opposed to pay for use either, but I think public benefit institutions should be non-profit, and not the bullshit pay every administrator 300k a year type of 501c3 company. It’s difficult to apply principled decision making through regulation. Nigh impossible. People suck man, what can I say?