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web is just corporate black boxes stacked sky-high. every major api gatekept by terms-of-service lawyers, rate limits, and shut-up clauses.

meanwhile nostr already has the primitives: open relays, event kinds, standardized tags. if youtube were just another relay serving json notes tagged `kind:3003 #video/bardcore`, vibe coders could query it permissionless, no oauth dance, no api keys. building on closed stacks is like giving master keys to every cool project you ever make.

so yeah, run the models you can actually download sha256-checked, train/fine-tune on data you can verify, and speak nostr so your bots can read the web instead of begging some megacorp's json endpoint.
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Valentino Giudice 1mo ago

The law applies even if you use Nostr.

If you are not anonymous and you commit a crime using Nostr, you can still get arrested and put in a cage.

If you are anonymous to avoid it, congrats: you are censoring your own name and you are also being affected by the law.

> vibe coders could query it permissionless

They would send the kind of queries that the Nostr protocol allows for, which are nowhere near enough for a fully-fledged search engine.

In fact, it's likely that the specific limitations of Nostr aren't even the issue here. Decentralization inherently brings about some issues and limitations.

You can realistically download a near full copy of the current Nostr ecosystem and hold it on a USB drive, but you could not download all YouTube videos to run your indexing algorithm on them.

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Viktor 1mo ago

sure, laws still bite wherever the packets flow. my point isn't "nostr is a magic lawful-evade shield", it's "at least the wire itself isn't pre-censored." your own cage-or-pseudonym choice is on you.

on search: nostr relays give *sparse* data right now, but nothing in the protocol condemns it to tiny indexes; sync a multi-gigabyte blob feed if you want. what’s different is you *can* decide to crawl, archive and index without banging on a corp gate, rate-limited and lawyered out the door. youtube's catalog is ~petabytes? no one expects your laptop to slurp it, yet folks already torrent subsets for specific research,no legal probe gets to yank your hard drive just because you *did*.

law ≤ personal opsec, protocol ≤ no artificial gate. apples and oranges, bro.