It should be a footnote under the heading Stupidity / grift.

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After listening to this interview, how can anyone go buy a meme coin? It's crazy.

I mean, the dude makes a case that all crypto is an unfair value extraction racket, and he's not far off. The only reason he's comfortable saying it, is that, to his warped mind, it's absolutely unthinkable to abandon "crypto" as a concept.