-Bitrefill, you can buy tickets for Amazon, supermarkets, gasoline, clothes, leisure, travel, and a long etc.

-Xapo Bank, with your card I can buy anything I want without going through fiat.

By the way, get a life, you're a fucking pain in the ass, I don't even know why I'm answering you, you're a fucking troll.

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Bitrefill and Xapo bank aren't shops. The only shop you named was Amazon and I'm pretty sure they're 100% fiat.

Exactly they are untrusted third parties that act as fiat exchanges for so called "Bitcoiners".

So maybe you can answer the questions instead. Feel free to substitute Monero for Bitcoin.

Hey fren.

There are some people who doesn't want to learn, just trying to make noise.

I'll boost your comment, it will serve for anyone wanting to learn how to live in the Bitcoin standard.

Unfortunately, it will not serve any purpose to the one you were answering. May serve to fill a void in his or her ego getting some attention.

Use the mute button and be happy.

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In Europe we can use Nexo and order a virtual card. And then use balances in Fiat and in various crypto currencies as LTV to serve as credit to your shopping… You may repay the debts or maybe sell the crypto to pay for that. Using a Visa card and the shop owner doesn’t even know what’s going on… 😂

Cards are a surveillance nightmare. Bitcoiners just don't care anymore about former cypherpunk ideals. They just want to easily spend their fiat nominated wealth.

And you have the audience to call Monero a shitcoin. Guys, you reap what you saw. Take care.

Pegasus, IME, Wifi mapping inside walls, Xaver (do you know what Xaver is? ) , supply chain detour, 5G, TCP-IP heavily funded by US government, Tor literally developed by US navy, etc etc etc… Man, my problem is not buy some eggs using a virtual card… We are already screwed up.

He's a well known fiat maxi troll. Don't bother with that guy...

btw here is a full list how to live using BTC only (I do that from 2018, no more fiat here)

https://darth-coin.github.io/beginner/pay-with-bitcoin-en.html

Thanks for sharing 😃.

I see in the utility section that there is a company https://basnederland.nl/

This company is bankrupt

oh yeah? so they do not accept BTC anymore?

The company does not exist anymore since 2016 😔

ok good to know. will remove it form the list.

I am not a NL user so was referred by somebody else.

Thanks.

It would have been nice, I know a lot of Dutch users.

The github site is the latest you are using, right? Also have substack, but you are migrating from that or to that?

updated both sources. Thanks again for pointing out.

Welcome 🙏.

Thank you for al the guides.

Also saw that for a ln adres the bridgeadress site is stopping at the end of 2024.

https://bridgeaddr.fiatjaf.com/

fiatjaf is a pussy

Edeka Germany (groceries) does not accept Bitcoin afaik...

Can you share where this information is from?

They were one of the oldest retails accepting Bitcoin from 2015. Indeed was through (fucking) Bitpay.

Last time I use it was in 2018 and I paid in BTC.

Now I see their website is in re-construction, so let's see if they will implement LN.

The website in your blog does not exist. The correct website of the chain's online shop is https://www.edeka24.de but they do not accept BTC (and doubt they ever had).

FWIW, Lieferando.de (known as Just Eat/Takeaway.com in other countries) accepts Bitcoin/LN -- through Buttpay ☹️.

Chances are if you're on a VPN you're asked to log in/register a Bitpay account. Although I had occasions where I just had to provide an email..

ok thanks, I replaced edeka with lieferando, just as a reference

Sorry, but you just outed yourself as a larper.

You are not even using BTC. You are using third parties that collect a tremendous amount of your behavioral data. And they themselves act as your fiat exchange.

You'd be better off trading back to cash on Bisq and spend the cash anonymously.

Most Bitcoiners not even try anymore to make merchants accept BTC directly. They are fat and saturated from their - guess what - fiat gains.

The only larper here is you.

I use all the tools I have at my hand, also bisq and robosats, plus many more of those mentioned.

Besides I don't have to justify myself to anyone, I have simply shown two very easy ways to use bitcoin.

You have to justify your actions to yourself on an ongoing basis. And it's a tough job because of all the cognitive dissonance. You can spend time on nostr most of the day getting virtual pats on the back for your proclaimed Bitcoin morale but then every now and then you have to venture out into the real world if only to fill up the fridge and then you're confronted with overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

I am doing some heavy lifting by onboarding merchants who understand the use case of digital cash.

They won't stop accepting Monero like so many businesses did with BTC since 2016, because someone sold them a wrong idea when in reality it is solely about economic liberty and protecting ones privacy in the post cash era.

When I ask Bitcoiners when they onboarded their last business - you get silence as an answer.

This.

I might be going the xapo route.

Not sure why I haven’t already. The idea of a bitcoin bank me nervous,

What is your experience?

It works fine, you simply load your account with bitcoin and use the card. I use it mostly to travel and forget about it.

Otherwise it is much better bitrefill as it is all without kyc and in most products or do not charge commission or even have discount.

Xapobank went crazy raising the annual fee from $150 to $1000 without any new services.

You just blew me away, I have no notification but indeed the next renewal is $1000.

I am going to cancel it tomorrow :(

Thank you so much for the heads up you saved me some money.

Xapo is a "service" neither for poor plebs, nor for real Bitcoiners.

That’s convenient for you to say.

I have no on ramps, no off ramps. I have a little bit of stack with my thumb up my ass.