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And you’ve demonstrated my point precisely. By definition, you cannot “get peace” by “forcing them to stop.”

People like you are either ignorant or stupid, or purposely malicious. Take your pick, but I would call the later most certainly psychopathic. Look, if you’re just ignorant or stupid, I’ll give you a pass, but quite frankly, yes, give Russia what they want so that thousands of lives can be saved.

In my world, lives are saved. In your world, people die.

And don’t give me the WW2 nazi rhetoric, Russia quite frankly does not want a war with nato, and the people in the eastern part of Ukraine don’t give a shit about Kiev. Most of the smart ones already left for Russia anyways, as I said would be prudent.

You’re the war monger here.

Peter Todd 7mo ago

In your world lives are not saved. People are enslaved and murdered. Ukrainians know damn well what happens in occupied territories.

And obviously, you certainly can stop an aggressor by forcing them to stop. That is peace. We've all achieved an uneasy peace with Russia by NATO making it too costly for Russia to attack. Egen though they're constantly blustering about taking NATO countries (e.g. the very popular "To Berlin!" propaganda phrase.

This is no different than how you can stop shoplifting and murderers by throwing them in jail. Russia is no different: they're just trying to steal land and expand their empire.

"The people in the Eastern part [of Ukraine] don't give a shit about Keiv"

😂😂😂

Russia slaughtered about 100,000 of them in Mariupol alone. I know people from that part of Ukraine. They hate Russia more than ever.

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AU9913 7mo ago

Seems like everyone on this post is fucked in the head. I made a comment about the symantics of the word terrorism and got called a psychopath? Get fucked.

But you do keep equating civilian Ukrainians with military ones, you can't do that and then be like 'attacking them is terrorism". If civilians leaving the warzone would help Russia win the war, then it's not terrorism, maybe it's a war crime but if you live within missile striking distance of the war front, you SHOULD BE FUCKING TERRIFIED that is how humans are supposed to feel when close to the barrel of a gun. If you're not in the military fucking leave and then you won't be scared. That isn't surrendering, you're not in the military, you're not surrendering

zebra 7mo ago

> you SHOULD BE FUCKING TERRIFIED that is how humans are supposed to feel when close to the barrel of a gun

I feel that but also I feel that I want to burn every russian with flamethrower the moment he crosses our border

AU9913 7mo ago

Valid.

🐢 7mo ago

Right, so lets just ignore the pro-Russian Ukrainians who supported Yanukovych when he rejected the European Union and dive head long into a war with a nuclear power who stated explicit intent and offered ways to avoid conflict?

Let’s face it, you’re simply anti Russian who supports any form of aggression toward Russia and has no concern for the lives of those lost to war.

You are a war monger, and support the death of those you do not know.

🐢 7mo ago