look at it from the other side
Don’t you think that being allowed into a country no matter what your beliefs are is wrong?
What if there was a group of immigrants who cheered for the KKK and Dylan Roof in college campuses, hanging nooses and harassing African Americans.
Do we need to keep them too?
nostr:npub1n0sxxgvsm4hk0utv9russrtj2p08j0wxddk0jasjtd9aulrcz78slkce54 the US legal system is very clear that immigrants and people on temporary visas have constitutional rights to free speech, political association, equal protection under the law, and due process. I think those things which are important parts of the American system are really good and should be defended.
Do I want immigrants supporting Dylan Roof or the KKK? No, but I do want a society that protects free speech. Just like I build on Nostr because I believe in building an internet where people can say things I don’t like or want to hear. I’m very confused to find people who advocate for censorship and authoritarianism on a platform like Nostr.
Turns out we don’t need to go by what any one person “wants” because the law actually allows for deportation in the case of visa holders who support US-designated terror groups
If someone states their support for a terror org on their visa application it can and should get denied (non-admittance). If someone starts supporting the KKK after they arrive, they can and should be deported (revocation).
It’s actually a smart solution if you think about it. Why would we import KKK en masse? What on earth for? To what end?
I'm not saying that you have to allow them in, my argument is that once they are inside the borders. They should have the full protection of the constitution.
And they do. But if they violate the terms of their visas they are deported.
did they violate the terms? have they been convicted?
Convictions are for crimes
They aren’t being accused of any crime because there is no criminal code for speech in the United States
They have been found violating the terms of their visa and they shall be deported.
what are the terms of the visas?
The relevant one appears to be “no material support (including dissemination of propaganda) for US designated terror orgs”
Unlike American citizens, visa holders are allowed to remain in the United States only conditionally, and can be deported for violating visa terms - including speech that qualifies as support for terrorism - even without a criminal conviction. Immigration law operates separately from criminal law (8 U.S.C. § 1182(a)(3)(B), § 1227(a)(4)(B)).
Because deportation is an administrative, not criminal, proceeding, the burden of proof is lower, there is no right to a jury trial, and no right to a public defender.
