All of you will be using ecash for private bitcoin payments you are just in denial right now.

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What's ecash?

Private payments for bitcoin.

https://cashu.space/

private *custodial* payments for bitcoin

Blah blah blah

Classic shitcoiner mentality 👍

have fun tradingsovereignty for convenience.

Ya ok buddy. You have no idea. I have a shitcoin mentality hahahahaaah sure

Go fuck yourself

hand waving sacrificing custody is bullshit shitcoiner thinking

i don't make the rules

Some of us understand that these are tools. The lightning network wasn't made for you to hodl Just like the e-cash mint weren't made for you to hodl. They were just made for you to use. Receive a private payment or send a private payment and get out. That's it, you're in and you're out. That's how you're supposed to use it. Not hodl your stack there and chill. Thise people are wrong