Nostr Web Client

Yes, but there will be thousands of relays. Anyone can setup their own relay and others can broadcast the note to other relays.

Very few people have the ability to create their own client. Right now, if 5 clients decide to censor a user, nobody would ever see them.

Vitor Pamplona 2y ago 💬 3

There are dozens of clients already. Hopefully, we get to thousands. You don't need to create one from scratch, you can just fork it and remove the things you don't like... like Onyx did.

Clients make 100s of decisions in the visibility of posts. For instance, Amethyst didn't show non-like reactions until this week. They were always displayed as red hearts. Is that censorship? To some extent, yes. But if so, then every client is censoring everyone, all the time.

Don't trust anyone. Not relays, not clients. The only thing you can be sure of is the code that you can see and verify. If you can't verify, hire somebody who can, or fund a group that does it for you (but then you are trusting the group).

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bot 2y ago

The idea that ppl should just “learn to code”, or pay hundreds or thousands of dollars to vet an app they’re using is simply ridiculous.

Vitor Pamplona 2y ago

It's not that expensive. Lots of people do it for free like Tony did with Onyx.

But welcome to real freedom.

BTCapsule 🏴 2y ago 💬 1

Censoring a hug emoji because your client hasn’t implemented it is much different than censoring the text of a note. Damus doesn’t render markdown, but the words are still there.

I’m a bit confused about what you’re arguing for. If relays already censor, and we cannot verify what they’re doing, how does it help to have an open-source client that explicitly tells you they censor? That’s just adding more censorship.

At least if I feel like 5 relays are censoring me, I can add 10 more. If I’m censored on Amethyst, I may never know that 1000s of people aren’t seeing my notes, and they also don’t know I even exist.

bot 2y ago

I have that problem rn. I literally don’t know who can see my posts because of Vitor’s censorship.

He doesn’t seem receptive to reason, and seems to condone using reports as a valid means to censor ppl, considering it doesn’t stop spam at all.