Look I am hard on pharma, I am called an "anti vaxxer" like 10x a week when I don't even talk about it but your take is as dumb as the take of "vaccines are safe an effective". A claim that equalizes them all.

If they "don't work" at all, show me a kid today with Chicken Pox.

Do I think that vax is good, no, it is blowing up Shingles in older people but I also can't say it doesn't work (prevent infection and spread). I also can't say what it will mean for shingles in another 35-45 years.

Still you can't just equate all these different things.

Now if you are only talking about CoVid, I agree 100% just be clear. If you mean all as in every single one, sorry you're tarded.