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> and irrelevant in most cases

It is highly relevant when you're being tracked by authorities. They typically start by sending you some money and then watching what happens to it next on the blockchain. E.g. that's what they did in this case where they traced a finnish man's monero: https://cointelegraph.com/news/finnish-authorities-traced-monero-vastaamo-hack

And in the Columbian case (where they ALSO traced a guy's monero) they also relied on the ability of the sender (in this case, Morphtoken) to point out exactly where he sent the money: https://cointelegraph.com/news/chainalysis-leak-monero-traceability

Lightning fixes this.

The simple fact is, on lightning, the sender can't trace his own payment, but on monero, he can, and this difference helps authorities arrest monero users.

nobody is denying targeted surveillance is possible.

stop acting like a fucking twat.

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As Kanzan points out, monero has serious weaknesses against targeted surveillance

If *you* are worried about targeted surveillance, lightning offers better privacy than monero

yes

feel free to investigate if running a full LN stack yourself

is a better fit for your privacy model than just using #Monero.