I've been running a fediverse instance as a backup for several years now. nostr is more resilient but I think fedi is resilient enough (and the UX is a million times better)
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Serious question: why is the UX a million times better?
It's (mostly) not inherently better, it's mostly a maturity issue. The current version of the fediverse has been around since 2017.
My preferred fediverse UI will be coming to nostr eventually via nostr:nprofile1qyt8wumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnddaehgu3wwp6kytcprfmhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuumgd96xvmmjvdjjummwv5hszxthwden5te0dehhxarj9e3k76twve6kuepwv9c8qtcqypuu9jhpzn4z32vpua2eknl8s49ywdfp4rfz5e4m4w06yj8tsg8lvxxqdcn although I think there's a primal-style intermediate server involved.
Most of the more "inherent" problems are solved by some kind of intermediate caching server (local relay might address this). I really don't like the way most clients seem to fetch everything and keep very little state, notes end up loading slowly, out of order and popping in.
markdown notes are great on fedi, I hope they will also come to nostr (there are already markdown kinds, but I'm not sure if there are any markdown "note" kinds)
discoverability is just awful on nostr, feels like I'm shouting into the void here, I'm shadowbanned on twitter and have better reach, and far better than either on fedi.
the instance model in the fediverse has some nice benefits in community, discoverability, moderation, but there's downsides too, obviously.
silly thing, but the fediverse's custom emojis create fun for people (and fun matters).
That doesn't add up to a million x but I hope you'll forgive the hyperbole lol
I think I'm bullish on nostr long term but things are still rough imho
this just bullshit, I have used mastodon for years and the UX was ridiculous
- reply and like counts where always wrong
- threads never loaded completely
- everything was slow as hell
- DMs suck
- no search
- following people if you had their name/address was often cumbersome
- sometimes you're just browsing on other servers, not your home server, for some reason, and there is no way to go home so you can interact
everything you just mentioned is as bad as or 100x worse on nostr
> reply and like counts where always wrong
10000x worse on nostr are you kidding me? There isn't even a canonical version of a thread to know if the count is correct.
> threads never loaded completely
same, except you'd never even know on nostr.
> everything was slow as hell
Maybe *only* 100x worse on nostr
> DMs suck
Nostr DMs weaken the security of your key dude
> no search
Factually incorrect, even in 2017.
> following people if you had their name/address was often cumbersome
Allow me to introduce you to non-human-readable pubkeys for identifiers
> sometimes you're just browsing on other servers, not your home server, for some reason, and there is no way to go home so you can interact
That's wrong, there literally is an "interact on my home server" button. But that's an admittedly clunky UX.
And in closing, mastodon is not the only fediverse server software. Pleroma is what I recommend, with the soapbox frontend. I genuinely have no idea what instance you used, or when, my only conclusion is it was misconfigured. Even in 2017 mastodon's UX was far better.
I never claimed Nostr was good in my post
my points were all objective and yours are all subjective, you didn't deny my criticisms (except for search but you are wrong), you just let it slip your bitterness and resentment against Nostr, wow, that was impressive and unexpected
but if anyone wants to know I think Nostr is better than mastodon in every aspect of those listed
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and since you claimed that pleroma is better or whatever I will also claim that you're probably using the wrong nostr client too
> my points were all objective and yours are all subjective, you didn't deny my criticisms
you were talking out of your ass and making shit up, verifiably.
As for subjective things like performance, any claims of performance problems ring completely hollow when I run my instance on a tiny underpowered VPS and it runs circles around every nostr client I've tried.
> you just let it slip your bitterness and resentment against Nostr
I don't hate nostr. I want nostr to get better, and I said outright I think it can.
I'm annoyed because nothing you said was true and you accused me of "bullshit".
The search and remote interaction points are verifiably wrong. Here's some screenshots in case there's a third party confused who is "bullshit"ing and who isn't.


These features have been present since 2017. Here's a github issue about search from 2017 that establishes search was present before this PR was submitted. https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/pull/1582
Here's a PR for remote following from 2017 https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/pull/898
Here's a PR for remote interaction with individual posts from 2017 https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/pull/8202
There's receipts, now please GTFO my notifications.
