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For thousands of years, people have been adopting belief systems which allow ruling classes to wield asymmetric levels of abstract power and control authority over them. Populations have tried to keep themselves secure against the systemic exploitation of these abstract power hierarchies using logical constraints encoded into rules of law, but time and time again, these logical constraints have proven to be demonstrably incapable of preventing systemic exploitation and abuse of people’s belief systems. No matter what logical constraints are encoded into the design of their abstract power hierarchies, people have not succeeded at sufficiently constraining belligerent people from exploiting them. Eventually, someone finds a way to exploit the population’s belief system for their own personal advantage.

This is a fundamental systemic security threat for all monarchies, ministries, legislatures, parliaments, republics, presidents, prime ministers, and senators. This also happens to be the same systemic security threat shared by computer programs and computer programmers. No matter what they’re called, no matter how their imaginary powers are encoded, and no matter how much people attempt to logically constrain them using carefully-designed rulesets, all belief systems which rely exclusively on imaginary sources of power and create trust-based, inegalitarian, and permission-based abstract power hierarchies that are demonstrably incapable of securing people against exploitation and abuse. These systems routinely become captured by tyrannical, oppressive rulers who abuse their abstract power to benefit themselves, their friends, and their private interests at the expense of the users they ostensibly serve.

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I believe peoples need to belong to a tribe plays a major role in this behaviour. For some reason humans always feel the need to belong to a tribe, to any tribe as long as the belong to a tribe. This then opens them up to being exploited.

Tribalism is probably one of our most pre-historical human instincts and we just can't seem to get rid of it.

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People need tribes because the alternative is to be completely on your own, which generally means death bc there’s no one to protect you from marauding thugs.

Tribes typically (always?) require you to bend the knee to the tribal narrative as proof of your loyalty to the tribe. And bending the knee wouldn’t count for much if the narrative didn’t weave in a few toxic threads in the form of nonfalsifiable beliefs +/- logical contradictions +/- hypocrisy. So we’ve become adept at embracing toxicity when the tribe demands it.

That’s a bad thing of course, and yet the motive is understandable: the need to belong. We need to appreciate the purpose of tribal toxicity before we jump too quickly to call each other out on it.

Very well said. Even in this space we insist on tribalism. NoCoiner, NewCoiner, Bitcoiner, Altcoiner, Shitcoiner, Maxi, not Maxi... see where this is going?

Yup. We all have tribal needs and instincts. Bitcoin doesn’t fix this, lol. (Although in theory, it might decrease the need for tribalism slightly by making self-sovereignty more feasible. But we’re still light years away from that!)

Tribal mentality: judge a message by the messenger. If the messenger is / is not one of you’re tribe, or if you like / don’t like the messenger’s behavior, then you’re more / less likely to agree with the message. ____ Derangement Syndrome basically refers to this mentality. Toxic Bitcoiners Derangement Syndrome: “I rage quit and sold all my bitcoin because they’re all so toxic.”

Reality-based mentality: judge a message on its own merits, not by the messenger.