WHAT?! you're saying a person with a completely compromised device, getting software from Google is the standard?!
We're talking about what is the most private and secure thing. Not what is the easiest to get a normie with a compromised OS and zero knowledge on. In fact, Signal or XMPP is irrelevant then, the whole OS is compromised
if we are talking about the "most secure thing," then our threat model stretches to infinity. who cares if you use omemo on your graphene device. the camera pointed at your bedroom window is calculating your key presses from the vibrations on a nearby bag of potato chips. we should just astral project into the western pure land so that the psychic kids in a government facility can't use their remote viewing powers on us.
tulsi gabbard probably doesn't know how to astral project into the western pure land, and she probably has an iphone. XMPP is nice and all, but the iOS clients tend to be trash.
Then by your own logic, why use Monero if Bitcoin can be private enough against the infinity?
It's what is reasonable trade-offs for what you get. There is not a right answer for everyone, but there is a wrong answer for Trump. And that was adding the random person to the chat group, which could have been prevented with XMPP as point d argues.
