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Bullshit. Due process is a requirement in this country. Even if you killed other people, you are still innocent until proven in court. The fact that it is expensive is the government of own fault.

Peter Todd 8mo ago 💬 2

Nope. The US has different due process standards for all kinds of different situations. This is a situation where the scale of the problem is so huge that due process standards simply have to be diminished.

All sane, non-suicidal, societies do this. That's why pretty much every country has a martial law mechanism. Indeed, I'm in Kyiv at the moment, and subject to martial law. One of the reasons why I can (relatively) safely be here is because normal standards of due process have been diminished.

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Vitor Pamplona 8mo ago 💬 3

Dont confuse war time with peace time.

Peter Todd 8mo ago 💬 2

As I said, the scale of the illegal/undesirable immigration problem in the west is such that it's closer to war than a pure policing operation.

Tens of millions of people have been allowed in who need to be deported.

freemymind 🇨🇭 8mo ago

But you know that this is mostly pure populism. Almost no good numbers to show a real problem. There is more problems within your mind, then there is problems caused by migration. Its called populism. Only because many people say migration is problematic, does not actually make it problematic.

Peter Todd 8mo ago

"populism" 😂

The facts are they the west is experiencing dramatic increases in crime in many locations because of terrible immigration policies. Many classes of non-(white/asian/Jewish) immigrants are _far_ more violent than the native populations. Those people damn well should be forced out.

freemymind 🇨🇭 8mo ago

Yes I dfnitly agree pushing out criminals by their second overstepping. And then even when their home country is violating human rights and they have to fear death.

All with you. But for this we have all capabilities within normal law and order. The only missing part would be creating the laws for this.

Laeserin 🇻🇦 8mo ago 💬 1

Hmm. Yes. But flooding a country with foreigners, in order to undermine the native population, is a form of asymmetric warfare waged by the government upon the citizenry.

I suspect many Americans consider themselves to be in a civil war, and the mass migration is part of that. That means the migrants are part of a military conflict and fair game.

Peter Todd 8mo ago

Hell, in a different context flooding countries with foreigners would (quite rightfully) be considered a form of genocide. It's well accepted in international law that trying to dilute a native population out of existence via immigration is genocide. Tibet (Han migration) and occupied Ukraine (Russians) both being recent examples.

There are certainly people in western countries whose hatred of white people is sufficiently nutty they their goal with unrestricted immigration is to genocide the white population out of existence (also, Jewish and Asian populations in some cases).

Vitor Pamplona 8mo ago 💬 1

Still, this is not war. You cant just make up a war on your mind to justify your actions.

Peter Todd 8mo ago

I'm welcome to make the argument that it's an emergency. As are politicians... Which is exactly what is happening.

Vitor Pamplona 8mo ago 💬 2

Emergencies are not wars. Made up emergencies are also not emergencies. Wasn't COVID bad enough? You want another "emergency"?

Laeserin 🇻🇦 8mo ago 💬 1

Not all emergencies are wars, but all wars are emergencies.

I would posit that COVID was an emergency, but the response was too draconian. Almost comical, in its ad nauseum absurdity. I feel the same way about remigration, but the side willing to listen to me complain about respecting due process was the same side ignoring me about securing the borders.

Either you have sensible laws and respect them, or you don't.

I no longer expect either the German or American governments to have sensible laws and respect them, so I'm increasingly indifferent to it all. I still have an opinion, but I'm all outraged-out and I'm hardly paying attention.

And I strongly suspect I'm not alone in that.

Peter Todd 8mo ago 💬 1

COVID at the beginning was a potential emergency. But we should have figured out quickly from the overwhelming scientific evidence that it wasn't actually an emergency, and lifted all restrictions.

Instead, we artificially turned it into an emergency by fucking up society – and the medical system – for political reasons.

Getting the psychopaths responsible for this out of society is it self an emergency. Because they're probably going to do it again; they already tried to before with the H1N1 fraud.

Laeserin 🇻🇦 8mo ago

Yes, I'm glad the FDP was still in government, at the time.

Laeserin 🇻🇦 8mo ago

Furthermore, I think that obstracizing and demonizing Catholic conservatives, like myself, for nearly a decade, was a terrible own-goal for the liberal left. Those political chickens are coming home to roost, now. We're naturally more center-right, and we've always been willing to listen, but we got pushed away.

I have not forgotten that I was banned from Twitter, twice, nearly lost my employment and was reported to government panels, for saying that there are two biological sexes and that abortion stops a beating heart.

I am no longer angry, but I am wary.

Also, there are only two biological sexes and abortion stops a beating heart. Thank God for Nostr.