I find it interesting that so many people reacted so strongly to the idea that users should have more tools to curate their personal experience on Nostr. I feel like some people confuse having the right to free speech with the idea that I should have to listen to or read it. I do highly recommend people step out of their echo chambers and follow people with differing viewpoints. I’ve always wanted the ability to have different presets for my feed that I can turn on and off before scrolling. Like some days I just want to turn off all political posts and just see things I consider fun and funny.
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Well said mal! đź’ś
🙏🏽
I wonder why I never see anything offensive?
Maybe u are not easily offended? Or some of them are lying? Both?
J'ai été insulté de manière flagrante par un notriche dont j'ignorais l'existence, 'cet échange peut servir d' exemple pourtant il n'y avait d'offensant ni provoquant en tombant sur une de mes notes ce dernier m'a fait savoir qu'il m'avait mise en sourdine tout usant des mots inappropriés un autre s'y melait et en pris pour grade.. En fine ce fut une bonne expérience certainement pour notre trio éphémère...
M'est avis si l'on tombe sur une note soit on lit ensemble soit on passe, qu' elle dérange pas ou ait l'intérêt tout dépend de chaqu'indivvidu tout sachant certains qui ont besoin d'attention peuvent en souffrir voire se faire provoquer jusqu'à partir et ce serait dommage car dans ces types de cas on vacille entre mode sauveur, guérisseur, ami,... Sachons que nous ne pourrions en ligne faire avec tous les divers types de personnalités...
On peut être drôle ou plaintif voire exubérant dans certains sujets, mais tout dépend de certaines occurences..
Je dérange certes par la langue que j'utilise littéralement.. par moment je fais l'effort d'expliquer si mes propres notes sont incomprises...modére mes propos le plus possible..
Quant aux genres j'ai trop peu remarqué la genre masculine évoquer leur besoins naturels (démons de midi liés à la sexualité , conception, enfantement, recherche de partenaires en ligne par exemple par rapport à la genre féminine est-ce un progrès ou pas ?? très peu d'exposition du genre neutre..
Merci
Ceci a déjà remonté par Snowden ce qui n'a guère plu par une des premières notriche laquelle a dû supprimé son compte début avril pour des raisons semble-il de harcèlement.. En fait nous sommes sur nostr l'idée est de se dire qu'on est tous des adultes nous nous devons d'être ouverts d'esprits mais de savoir user des différents types de communication, de l'une des clés est l'usage du recadrage ... Mode adulte adulte, rend la communication beaucoup plus saine tout en aidant n'importe l'autre dans ses propres.. 'tout necessite un repérage de certains mots, termes voire emojis..
Touts les autres modes type enfant ou sauveur ne fonctionnent pas sauf si l' on veut tomber dans un certain mal-ĂŞtre en ligne qui biaiserai la plate-forme y compris les utilisateurs
Liberté d'expression en ligne c'est trop facile, toujours en période d'observation curieuse de tout, prête à participer mais pas à tout contenu depuis les débuts je vous avoue qu'il y a des sujets récurrents ou des petits groupes qui se font puis se défont à tour de likes ou d'emojis qui ne sont pas très aidant pour le ou la notriche qui peut en souffrance que l'on peut détecter par certains de mots ou d'occurrences..
Sur nostr cela peut être complexe à longs termes pour certains puisqu'il s'ennuient peut-être ou sont en quête d'un *truc* que je qualifierai illusoire... Je poux peut-être me tromper.. mais ne basculerai sur certaines postures qui ne me semblent guère vraies à moins d'un miracle ces types de profils de notriches peuvent être en danger réel car non prêts sur le plan psychologique...me demande si leurs proches savent qu'ils mettent en ligne !? Quant à sourdiner si tout un chacun si met la plate-forme n'évoluerait qu'entre professionnellement et pourquoi !?
Hard to know when some stupid idea is going to blindside you on a random Tuesday in a coffee shop line with a stranger. People say crazy shit IRL too and we love the idea of gathering all the madness together in specific pockets of weirdness 🤷🏼 I have come to like my little corner of #nostr feels like a bit of something carved out for myself that’s just happy to be acknowledged like might not agree with what you’re saying but definitely gm 🤙🏻
And to be clear everyone should absolutely have whatever filters they need to have at their disposal to function, whatever the purpose of gazing into this abyss that is #nostr might be.
Users should not infrastructure
No man we’re just here to fuck shit up make the devs regret showing the dumber monkeys any and all trickery.
I'm not that monkey and not that Dev so they picked the wrong frog tda
Grammar users not need either!
thats not a sentence
you know we are gonna meet in person one day and you are gonna cower and scurry right. I will get on a panel with you at some point. Dont be a keyboard hero. You will look awful stupid when you have to stand and be polite. Stop being a dick and go write your censor bot project. I think you know the backlash you are gonna get. so enjoy. This is tip of iceberg if you persist.
wen grammar nazi bot? 🤖
were you too dim to infer a comma?
Beautifully said đź«‚đź’ś
"I feel like some people confuse having the right to free speech with the idea that I should have to listen to or read it."
Sounds like a straw-man; who thinks this way?
Does the mute function not serve this purpose? What limitations does it have?
Tools to create word filters and your own lists that you can switch between is fine, great even - I can see the benefits of that for giving people the ability to create their own experiences without resorting to using bots to build profiles of people (which may or may not be accurate), when people may not even be aware that this is happening.
Seems simple to me.
Agree on all fronts the issue is that if it is not client side then we have just created central point for future censorship.
We have a choice where to put the functionality. We can censor or we can put tools in client space.
No one wants a polluted feed but some don't want anyone else having any part in deciding what is pollution.
Respectfully
A tool to curate your feed is follow tags of people let's say, posts about cooking, posts about well being, art posts. These go on the positive side, no one will be made if someone tags their content with "exercice". The problem is a bot labeling your content as "harassment", "hate speach" because you said "retarded"
*no one will be mad****
I curse like a drunken sailor sometimes. If someone wants a bot to prevent seeing posts where my language gets colorful. Great! I’m not owed an audience. Nor do I really care to interact with people so easily offended. I figure it works out for both parties.
It's not just not seeing, its your content gets tagged, with time and more bots your notes will be labbed accordingly to this bots, and it almost becomes part of the protocol, and you don't know if the labelin is fair at all, imagine your content being labeled "racist" and people might follow you or not based on that. A client might show your profile with those tags.
People can do this as an attack if the don't like you. Flag you out of spite.
Just gives tools to oppress.
I don't expect my message to find a place in people's minds. But I do mind my messages getting flagged for benign reasons. Smacks of boot licking, daddy govt worshipping.
The thing is people will follow the most "reliable" bot, but then you create a problem, it's a bot, it will make a lot of mistakes, people will complain about not being seen, getting wrong flags etc. And the the bot owner is going to make some tweeks to accommodate, so basically this person is in fact responsible for the tagging of behalf of hundred or thousands of people. And your right, it's a privacy concern also.
Bots need a human hand behind them. Are humans infalible? I think not. Will the bots do dumb shit? Yes, they will. Garbage code in, crap results out.
What makes this worse, is that Rabble is thinking that he's the one for the job.
Not a single human being on the face of the earth is qualified to police another person's speech.
Unless you are a parent to a three year old who says "fuck" a lot.
Then you have a different set of problems.
And now do Main Volume and his racist and misogynistic slurs. Nostr has lots of bots. I’ve read the thread carefully. You want your idea of free speech and being against "leftist thoughts“ and other nonsense to be seen as normal? So let others have their protection from it. That’s a lot of reframing while you’re promoting a thicker skin that you obviously don’t have yourself. If you’ve talked about the topic without insults, I would have tried to believe in your noble efforts to save us all from the wrong bots. Now, I'll mute you, and happily try other methods to avoid wasting time on your dull content.
I got my kids to stop saying “fuck” when they were little by explaining what it means. Kind of like I’m explaining how Nostr works to folks freaking out about someone else on Nostr publishing report and label events that reference their content.
The issue is whether I have the tools or some infrastructure does. If infrastructure does then we have a problem
Curating your feed exactly the way you want it, is not censorship