š·š“ Wonder why they annulled the elections?
Romania was voting not to go to war with its neighbours or to host NATOs plan to make it a target by creating the biggest NATO base to go to war with Russia.
š·š“ Wonder why they annulled the elections?
Romania was voting not to go to war with its neighbours or to host NATOs plan to make it a target by creating the biggest NATO base to go to war with Russia.
Itās a more complicated situation, your simple answer is a totally false one š
Care to educate us all. The EU immediately put pressure for an immediate recount and throwing away of the results after the first round of voting. There's no time in Romanian history has there been that pressure to cancel elections.
1. The system is fucked and corrupt like on almost every country - true
2. Did every candidate to presidency use correct methods in campaigns? - no. And the main problems were not just with Georgescu, who is one of the worst people and politicians Romania has, also with the 2 main political parties, who governed together in the last years
3. The main problem with this Georgescu is how he use the peopleās fears and frustration, and promote his āsolutionsā - just empty words, in fact - using a lot of money that he didnāt declare he had or where he get it.
Itās a little but hard to explain in few text lines the whole situation. But he used the old recipe, mixing bits of truth with stupid and fucked ideas⦠and if you trust this, imagine some really poor educated people what will think!
" 3. The main problem with this Georgescu is how he use the peopleās fears and frustration, and promote his āsolutionsā - "
A democracy is not simply ignoring an election because a candidate presents the "wrong type " of ideas. This is fascism territory in disguise as somehow a more moral process.
Exactly what he does⦠fascist ideas in disguise š
Your response is telling me you don't understand what fascism is and the irony of using it because someone got public support through his perspective.
Please, explain! What fascim is?
By definition you can't have a fair Democratic election with the majority wanting an outcome and the leader performing that outcome be called fascism. Fascism is by definition closer to the EU canceling and election and threatening sanctions if you don't put the right leader in power.

And you gave me what Georgescu really wants
Not that he get it is the problem⦠how he get it⦠and, if you will answer my question about fascim, I think it will answer you also why I said it
Again, I blame the government, judiciary system, intelligence agencies for this mess⦠but that it doesnāt make this fucker our savior
The picture you use is āmadeā by someone.
If you want to see exactly how Romanians voted in 1st election round: 
The recount is not related with throwing away the results.
The pressure for recount was made by the PSD, the biggest political party and the successor of old communist party
"The pressure for recount was made by the PSD, the biggest political party and the successor of old communist party"
This is not totally true, the process began from the EU to do this it started immediately after it was clear the wrong party was winning with accusations at tik tok. There's no real evidence here by the way the only thing they can see is that people are responding positively to the "wrong messages" at a critical time of the elections. They took this claim pushed PSD to use it and present it as evidence.

The recount of votes was made on 1st and 2nd December
"The recount of votes was made on 1st and 2nd December"
I'm not sure what the point here is. The EU had concerns, issued a information request against social media companies that had no answer for them because what the EU essentially was asking is why is person A more popular than popular B.
The EU took the non answer to Romanian oppositions to use it as some sort of evidence to they themselves interfere with results like the recount and annulment of the election.
You showed me a picture from 6th December. At that point, the results from 1st round of elections were recounted. And I posted a picture with official results
The tik took information request wasn't on the 6th mate. 
They will disqualify someone because he wants to be friendly with Russia. This you argue is somehow democracy? Stripping the hope of people of a country to not go to war? 
Have you ever been in Russia?
And, letās not mix different ideas⦠not wanting a war is not equal with being friend with Russia⦠Russia was never Romaniaās friend
Another observation I have from Europeans elites and propaganda agents whose points are often parrotted by smart people like yourself is, everything is often reduced to " you're either with us or you're against us and if you're against us its obvious you are with Russia, or working for Russia. "
So you're telling me a country not going to war with Russia is inhertly wrong and the idea should be punished. Got it.
No⦠I donāt! But I can use exactly the words you used, change the UE with Russia⦠there is no point, man!
I want to be clear, the problem here is disqualifying political opponents in general. Suppressing any political parties, persons, or perspectives is evil in my opinion it doesn't matter what the topic or view is. If people are voting those votes can't be ignored, if a antiwar movement is happening its immoral to suppress that/ignore because it will ultimately lead to everyone's misery here.
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I have a question, are you living in Europe?
I'm not in Europe which in my mind makes my observations clearer and without bias. I have lived in Europe.
You have an open invitation if you ever want to visit Romania! š
As a Romanian brother how is this OK to you
Taken from the article you sent me:
"Experts said is was unclear after the court decision if all the candidates are going to be allowed to re-register for the new vote, or if Georgescu could be disqualified following revelations of Moscow's support for him." 
And I repeat: I donāt agree⦠the government, the court are fuckinā corrupt and/ or incompetent⦠not even Lasconi agrees with it.
Canceling the election is really a fucked up thing, but again, its show us how the entire political system is fucked up. And that Georgescu is part of it.
And last, we donāt want Romania to be next Ukraine⦠or part of Russia.
I've detected a few misinformation attempts on your part.
First point I want to make for Europeans: There is no circumstance where denying popular vote regardless of how the people come to a populists conclusion can be considered a democracy.
Europe has turned into " If you don't agree with the central authorities at the top we will ignore you". Right now in France there is no government and Macron refuses to leave. Georgia is undergoing an endless assault to overturn a legitimate election and the UK is on its 3 prime minister no one voted for.
Yes, Russia is interfering with NATOās election interference.
The people have always deserved their elected representatives. Anything else is just old fashioned paternalism and patronizing.
A beautiful example of how western institutions are collapsing. There is a quote about holy cows dissappearing instead of being slaughterd. But this one they straight up beheaded in broad daylight.
This stuff is coming to your country soon.