Construction, heavy equipment, and transportation. We’re in the process of pivoting to small scale farming and homesteading. It’s been an adventure, ultimately I’d like to have a line of value added products made largely from farm produced resources. Like anything else, it’s effortful working through regulatory briar patches while still staying true to the grass root ideals.

Regarding assisting people, what I look for are people at 100% effort who just can’t quite get on the sustainable side of the resource curve. Sometimes it’s a car that keeps breaking that they can’t afford to replace. It’s finding those few things that will allow them to move forward. It takes time, and a lot of knowledge about the circumstance and honesty. So many interactions between people these days are curated. It’s difficult to know real people well enough to really be helpful.

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Coincidentally I just found out a friend is in escrow on her new goat farm. Same herd she’s just having to move to a different state for her husband’s job.

Finding people like that to help is difficult because they’re likely proud with an independent streak. I know I struggle to ask for help from my family and closest friends. Then apologize profusely while receiving help. Even though I know how wonderful it can feel to be helpful.

I agree with you, I’m fiercely independent myself. It’s a dance really. Often people are unable to identify the pivotal items in their own life, but trying to help without asking and having acceptance is in my experience often more harmful than helpful. I’m sure outsider perspective would make some priorities clear in my life, but close knit community is so difficult to build these days, and trustworthy people seem to be becoming more rare. I think scarcity is driving this.

Community building is definitely a learned skill. I feel like I’ve met too many people that think a community just magically springs up around you. Not realizing all relationships take an amount of work to thrive. It’s a bit like expecting a garden to thrive without doing any planting, weeding, or watering.

Ahh interesting!! “but trying to help without asking and having acceptance is in my experience often more harmful than helpful” Could u expand on this. I dont quite fully understand this. can u break it down for me and explain so i can have a better and deeper understanding. Thanks! 🤞🏻🙏🏻

The way I think about this is that the circumstances people are in usually stem from a legacy of decision making that has led them to their current conclusions. It’s nearly impossible to alter people’s decision making protocol in my experience. I could give an indigent person a million and within ten years most would be flat broke again. I’m looking for the person making solid decisions, but who has just either not gotten the momentum to beat the income to expense curve or had had an unfortunate event or two that are critical to their success. Second, sometimes a person I might see as living a suboptimal lifestyle is perfectly at home with the way they are living. I’m sure some billionaires would perceive my lifestyle as nothing but bad decisions and trash, and perhaps offer help, for my part I’d reject their criticism and their help. I’m happy with my path, and so are many people I may see as needing help so it’s always good to ask and get acceptance when you see an opportunity to help.

Love that!!!! Yeah ultimately everyone does have their own unique journey in this world and alot of times really successful people like George Holtz says “the best advice is to not take any” especially if its from people u DONT want to end up like. It is always good to hear all perspectives tho so you can learn and apply new aspects to your life. u seem like a interesting person nostr:npub14eng8plhflea40cu3lafnw6nwkxsp5te2v7hzy74lz6a9mjhpaks0wm4rw ! id love to chat more brother!

nostr:npub1885tphy6fnjxwevlvx4lgkum0pusp4k5u5khthgq844fx8u6f4js3rx4nv you got this whole thread rolling in the first place. All the 💜💜💜