Agreed but so is using a bunch of sound money upfront to send bitcoin IOUs to each other.

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You didn’t answer my question though. Have you run Lightning yourself? It’s not a finished product. This is a scaling layer that is still being developed. If you want to transact everything on-chain, be my guest. There are plenty of people in the BSV community who would welcome you with open arms. I guess I’m just a shitcoiner in your eyes.

Yes I have. Lots of fees. I know it's not finished.

Bsv is trash.

Nobody is anything in my eyes but human.