Cashu mints are connected to Lightning so you can withdraw to any Lightning wallet but not directly onchain.

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Yup. I get that... But I don't know how to move from lightning to on chain. That's my own problem, though.

I'm still confused as to why zapping isn't working.

you can use nostr:npub1psm37hke2pmxzdzraqe3cjmqs28dv77da74pdx8mtn5a0vegtlas9q8970 if you wanna do it manually, or if you want abstract a bit of it away, you can use nostr:npub1ajlrwgfj4yerhqf7ady03h7wmtk2qr3gs7h3sxcx83k05yld36sswpzx3q

I'll check those out.

aqua can accept lightning payment which it auto-converts to liquid.

from their you can swap liquid to btc.

also, it's been about a year or so but I have in the past gone from ecash straight to liquid in aqua. was a bit wonky then but worked and is likely better now

I don't know anything about liquid.

it's a sidechain that acts very much like bitcoin (UTXO's, etc) where you can peg-in / peg-out bitcoin.

1 min block times.

it's federated custody so not trustless, but it does work.

anyways, once you have sats in there, in aqua you can do a swap to peg-out your liquid sats and "turn em back into bitcoin", which is then in your custody.

the same seedphrase in aqua is used for both liquid and bitcoin.