also, i hate KDE

windows basically ripped off CDE, which was a rip-off of the original base X window decoration and widget design, and KDE is just CDE

i don't like mac style either, that is part of the reason why i'm quite cheesed off at gnome because they clearly are trying to emulate it, especially the idiotic pied color scheme, like, fucks sake black and white panels on one window is just evil