Mullvad offers quantum resistant tunneling already.
#proton is building quantum-safe pgp for everyone
"Proton is leading the standardization of quantum-safe encryption algorithms in OpenPGP, the open standard of encryption that is available for anyone to use via the free and open source libraries that Proton maintains, such as OpenPGP(dot)js and Gopenpgp."
#opensource #proton #quantumcomputing #pgp #infosec #cybersecgirl
https://proton.me/blog/post-quantum-encryption#proton-quantum-protection
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they do. love mullvad vpn. however, standardizing quantum resistent pgp encryption for an open web (i.e. everyone) is a different beast altogether 🤙🏻💜
Do you trust proton though?
no
i have no reason to distrust #proton any more than i do any other privacy focused service. i assume compromise and mitigate potential threats with infosec bedt practices, layers and compartmentalization etc.
i don't blindly trust anything or anyone. infosec is not about trusting a tool to keep you safe. you have to do the work, it is an applied holistic practice.
in regards to the issue with the gov forcing them to keep logs on that activist. it is the same with any company that recieves a binding order from the gov. the takeaway from this event is, don't be foolish.
vpns are treated different under current swiss law.
if the activist was using proton vpn, there would not have been anything proton could have handed over.
"Under current Swiss law, email and VPN are treated differently, and Proton VPN cannot be compelled to log user data."
it's penitrable by the fbi
Yah no. If you dont trust a platform and continue to use it on the basis its private its a contradiction. Proton has given into government entities and gave there users info before whats to stop them from doing it again? Ill use proton mail as a normal email address but I wont trust there vpn or any service they offer. Mullvad literally got raided and the police left with nothing, so yah ill just trust the people that stand by there word. Not to be mean but sounds more like your selling proton to people even though you still say to do stuff to mitigate THEM giving your data away when they are supposed to be on your side. also agian mullvad had government police in there office with warrents and THEY GOT NOTHING. why cant proton do that? Why does proton get to choose who they cave in for? Either close your company or change your marketing to reflect there actual values, aka they cave to any pressure thats to much for them... Also if you pay for proton vpn they can just give your data over and show what you've been up to on there vpn. Sorry for rant but just seems weird....
good on you. same as proton, mullvad vpn keeps no logs. there was no data to take. i stated this clearly in my last reply. vpn is not email, you are conflating the two. mullvad is not a privacy focused email provider, if they were, they would have been forced to do the same thing. period.
Sorry didnt explain the mullvad vpn vs proton vpn is the payment method. Mullvad you dont create an account and can pay with btc or monero so not traceability. But will agree on your point its hard to find a truly private email client and proton does help in that aspect. Also on the email side I do agree email would be diffrent but think there has to be some company that will burn everything and be a sacrifice to stand by there privacy. promise.
Perhaps a bit beyond my pay grade, but doesn’t a VPN provider know your actual IP address, and other relevant data? Such that even if you pay with Bitcoin and they keep no logs, they could still point law enforcement in the right direction, if prompted?
as i quoted above:
"Under current Swiss law, email and VPN are treated differently, and Proton VPN cannot be compelled to log user data."
Big fan of them.
same
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