Now on Main Stage, after Hackathon Expo, at nostr:npub1dwah6u025f2yy9dgwlsndntlfy85vf0t2eze5rdg2mxg99k4mucqxz7c52 Lightning++ Edition: nostr:npub1sfhflz2msx45rfzjyf5tyj0x35pv4qtq3hh4v2jf8nhrtl79cavsl2ymqt of @fundwithflux with "The Fiat Payment Stack".

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Ideas to debunk:

- Bitcoin is expensive <-> Fiat is cheap

- Bitcoin payments are hard <-> Fiat ones are easy

Banks have a cost of capital when being a member of the FED, since they need to have capital reserves inside the FED. This is not cheap nor free.

When a person makes a payment to a merchant, in the fiat system there are around 32 steps between different actors (FED, VISA, banks, Square, etc.) that need to be satisfied.

No money really gets ever around, it is all settlments between different ledgers in the FED system.

Is Lightning that bad?

- Permissionless

- Instant

- Sort of private

- Atomic

"Bitcoin is money, everything else is credit.

Credit is expensive, so fiat payment sucks.

Lightning is magic."