Because there are people in this community, they are very few but they do exist, that hit the nail on everything they are asking. But who knows if they are going to take it. 400k is for the average senior dev.
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Geez. Senior devs in Germany are making like €80k. 😂
And that's for electrical engineers and computer scientists with master's degrees and 20+ years engineering experience.
Pre or post tax and payroll fees? In the US, salaries are pre-tax. You may get only half of it liquid, with similar European benefits, at this level.
Pre-taxes and deductions, but you can sometimes get over €100k with bonuses and stuff. And more, if you're a team lead or something.
Same job, lead dev, as a remote gig for a US based entity can generate $150-250k per year. Move the financial operations to a low tax jurisdiction and you ended up with 90% of that liquid. Keep moving around within the residency and taxation limits. Some allow leaving their country for up to a year. Some consider you a tax resident after 90 or 180 days. Lots of ways if the person wants to keep jumping around. To settle, even living in Germany is possible, but not without a GmbH or an UG. The net income will shrink as both the company and the single employee will have to pay relatively higher tax for ass freezing winter and stupid regulations plus amazingly screwed public health insurance.
it's best to just stick to the outlying territories at all, anywhere
nobody snitches on you to the tax man in the country, everyone is dodging that bitch every way they can already
It makes the job look kinda bad, that they have to pay so much, tho. I work for Nostr for free, after all, because the topic is motivating.
Well, yes it is still a job. But I don't think applicants will regret making that much money :)
And frankly Bitcoin core devs deserve it. They have been working for 15 years with little to no pay. It's time to cash in.
Hey, I'm happy for anyone get paid. I'm just amazed at the salaries.
You would think salaries like that would attract so much talent, that the salaries would quickly come down. Some weird demand bottleneck, I guess.
I keep hearing about crazy-high US salaries, but nobody wants to hire the dirt-cheap Europeans. It's so weird.
Seems like an arbitrage opportunity. 🤔
Its because hiring people overseas usually require larger companies to have offices locally. There are a lot of cultural differences. So unless they do it at scale, it just generates more costs.
That's true.
I work with developers from lithuania and portugal from time to time ... they say the same about german salaries as we do about those in the us …
We have Romanian colleagues who are pretty cheap, in comparison to us.
i'm currently thinking about working as a dev again .... but the last time i did that was over 10 years ago 😅
but in the last few weeks i've seen vacancys for devs under 65k salary....
i'm just glad that i have an arrangement at the moment where it's ok for me to do only part time so i can do my nostr stuff at an adequate pace
software development is a funny thing... people who write really good tools and libraries can do a lot less hours and produce a better product and sooner, but usually that sort of development isn't done for pay in the first place
it's a bit like the carpenter who sharpens and polishes his tools and spends a lot of time practising doing joins and corners and making things square and level and polishing them smooth
They've apparently got a few already at this pay scale. Geez. An entire cluster making more money in one year than I earn in 5.