yeah i figured these were just for like an oxy torch working on steel for like cutting and such... yes very white hot blast of IR but nothing like a welding arc... those things leave burn-in on your eyes for a minute even at 10 yards range, even reflections from metal objects

anyhow i got them for reducing the ability of IR illuminators from showing my eyes to cameras so the many cameras i may pass by from time to time will not be usable images to recognise me automatically from my face