That's really a shame. Especially NAK is so close to what we're talking about that you'd think he wouldn't have any issue with it. But we're just missing that bigger framework, that broader understanding we could use to spread our ideas under. Our topic has to break out of its purely technical box, because in the end, for the scholars, it's all "just tech" that they or anybody could skip if they wanted. They don't get yet that in this case, they actually need the tech to, like, follow the rule on avoiding Riba, and that it doesn't work with gold the way it used to. I think THAT's the real big challenge: Our tech isn't optional anymore, it's not some hobby or nice-to-have convenience. It's turned into a straight-up necessity. That's why, and only why, I respect the SAIF movement (a little bit 😏).